Thanks for your reply. I am in fact a farmer (clue in username) who works from dawn to dusk. However I am on leave at the moment and was driving and talking to my wife about the very nature of epiphanies and the difficulties involved with changes in one's compass. If an epiphany occurs in a crowded hall in front of a talented orator perhaps one should treat it with scepticism. If a sea change happens over time through contemplative thought, it may be accepted more readily. I slipped in the sexual orientation thing because a friend of mine had that very damascus experience. He separated from his wife but they remain close and all other aspects of his life are unchanged. I do despair when people talk religion or politics and cannot see that arguments cannot shake such fundamental axes of one's frame of reference. Thank you