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A girl tries to show off her boyfriend. Fails miserably. by fijianbeastin bestof

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

To be fair copy and paste works for her. Not everyone understands how these thing work.

The Dragon just docked with the ISS! by whoosyin space

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

That is an excellent analysis. Much better than I could have done I agree with you 100%.

The Dragon just docked with the ISS! by whoosyin space

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

I probably explained it horribly, as I just got a tour. I think it's more like they have models that goes beyond the basic propulsion and power systems. When they explained it to me they made it sound like other companies weren't doing this yet. And I kinda trust that they know what they were talking about.

The Dragon just docked with the ISS! by whoosyin space

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

Orbital's experience is in building satalite , so that is the model they are using to build their vehicle. Orbital is actually doing some innovative stuff with the satilites. One big first is they are now have a base model statilite that they add stuff to based on the customer dramatically reducing design and production costs because major part from the satilites are interchangeable now.

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

Wow from talking to you it sounds like you would really enjoy getting a masters or Phd. Don't think you are too old several guys in the CS department and UMCP are in their late 30's. I doesn't have to be about the money either I realized I was willing to pay money to take graduate classes because it helped keep my brain active and made me happier. Also you look like you would be great at writing research papers which is one of the things I always find harder. Many schools will let you get in a non-degree seeking student based on the fact you have a bachelors and money. (that's what I did) and after you get to know some professors they can help you get in for real.

What you talk about with Neural Networks is really at the edge of the field. The idea of using a Neural-net to remove JPEG artifacts is quite interesting. Even if you didn't get it to work you may still have some interesting results about what why it didn't work. I hate to keep suggesting you get graduate degree but I think some who actively dining research in neural networks is the only person who is going to help you. You don't seam to have a bunch of the formal training but could be fixed with class or two.

You could probably expand the ideas you have into a thiese if that is something you wanted to do. These are good ideas I and can't tell if they will work out well or not, in fact I suspect that no person on Earth can either.

but it didn't do one thing that I was really hoping for, which was describe the current limitations of various approaches that people have hit face-first in trying to create sophisticated general AI.

At this point we don't even know where to start when it comes to making a general purpose AI. Other than keep making weak AI's and hope that it leads to making a strong AI eventually. As far as I know their is no serious research that is attempting to make a strong AI. I don't mean to sound discouraging but this is the state of the field as I see it. We are like the ancient Romans and the Strong AI is like the moon, everything we do right now (standardize the calendar, provide running water, build roads, establish a government and stable economy, lots of math) are nessacary to build a moon rocket, even though we aren't directly working on the that final step of actually building a rocket. When people start talking about Strong AI they are ether straying in to philosophy (which is awesome you just have to realize it) or the don't have good grasp of where the field really is. Certainly most AI researchers hope that they will eventually get make a strong AI, and if I'm wrong and happens sooner that would be great but I would be against it.

Hasbro shuts down prominent "My Little Pony" artist by the_patchesin mylittlepony

[–]lotu 7 points8 points ago

Yeah this is an area where the law need to be updated. Perhaps some form of mechanical license when the the artist pays the IP owner some fixed amount for every product they make.

All I can say is this is a very complicated issue with shades of gray and knee-jerk reactions aren't going to provide answers despite how satisfying they are to have.

TIL Everything you say to Siri is sent to Apple, analyzed and stored. Personal information relating to your Siri query is also sent. And Apple reserves the right to share this information with partners and related services. by ancient88in todayilearned

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

Well, yes. However if Apple didn't include the "other Apple products and services" then they couldn't use Siri data in future different but related products. For example if they come out with a Siri for Apple TV that might be considered a different product by someone looking to sue Apple. Or they might in the future start a search engine (or partner with an existing one) and use Siri data to help it recognize spoken queries. There are lots of possibles for what could happen in the future and it makes no sense to put limitations on themselves like this.

Also, even if they are selling user data it is going to be aggregate data, such as this group of people are more likely to be looking for this product or service at this time of day or after they have done this other activity. They aren't going to be selling a list of TaviRider's search queries indexed by location and time. Honestly if they started doing that I'm not sure that the user agreement would be enough to protect them.

TIL Everything you say to Siri is sent to Apple, analyzed and stored. Personal information relating to your Siri query is also sent. And Apple reserves the right to share this information with partners and related services. by ancient88in todayilearned

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

The expectation with Siri is just that I'm communicating with my personal device, not speaking to an unlimited number of unknown companies.

But is says otherwise in the User Agreement, that you have to agree to before you can use the device. Didn't you read it before selecting "I agree"? After all how would you know if you agree with something if you don't read it?

TIL Everything you say to Siri is sent to Apple, analyzed and stored. Personal information relating to your Siri query is also sent. And Apple reserves the right to share this information with partners and related services. by ancient88in todayilearned

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

It is very broad because Apple doesn't want to constantly have to worry about if they are in the narrow terms of their contract. For example, Apple make takes some siri queries so and plays them back to humans to test the accuracy of siri's voice recognition. If they include the geographic location of the user it might help them in identifying regional accents or dialects that Siri has trouble with. Now if Apple uses outside contractor for some part if this process they have to share the data with them. Alliteratively lets say Apple pay another company to provide them with offsite backups of the one of their data centers, obviously some user data from Siri could be included in this. Either of these things might be construed as a sale of information and used by lawyer looking to make a quick buck to sue Apple. That's why these terms are so broad.

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

First I must ask, what is your educational background. Knowing that would help me figure out what level of detail to give. (I'm assuming your doing introductory CS courses right now)

As far as Neural Networks go their are a bunch of standard models, but you can do what ever you want with them and if it work you can write a paper about it. The idea of pruning is interesting I'm not aware of anyone doing it successfully.

There isn't a lot of overview stuff here, either, that I could find; I finally purchased Recurrent Neural Networks for Prediction by Mandic and Chambers, but I haven't had time to go through that one yet.

The book I learned Neural Networks from is [http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-Neural-Networks-Architectures-Applications/dp/0133341860](*Fundamentals of Neural Networks, Architectures Algorithms, and Applications*) by Laurene Fauset. It a bit old but totally valid, and very mathy.

It is meaningless to try and educate a an AI like we try educate a human. It would be like trying to educate a virus. It just can't be done in any meaningful way at this point. AI's can't ask questions and use the results to build a conceptual model of the world.

Well, yeah, English isn't going to be viable from the start, that's true...but, hey, human babies take years to learn to ask questions too. However, I can describe what I believe to be a simple neural net with a the ability to learn to query. Basically, it comes up with a random value every five iterations, then teaches the neural net to query for this value.

What you describe may or may not work. I would have to look at a lot more closely and perhaps implement it to get an answer. It looks like an interesting approach, it might be neat to implement it and see what you get. It might be a novel result in all honesty.

They can't just be treated as axioms; they can only be processed by something that is already capable of at least detecting conflicts in knowledge and creating new simpler "concepts" that do not map 1-to-1 with English words. For example: "A bird is a mammal", and "She flipped him the bird" would give a computer fits if it took every rule as accurate and words as the base "concept" to work with.

I simplified, really this done using ontologies so reasoning can be done. But the thing you mention is still a problem. So the database has contradictory statements in and we just hope that everything will work out eventually.

As far as an overview I don't think their is a paper their is a text book AI a Modern Approach which is the definitive book on AI. It covers just about everything in the field of AI. It recently released a third edition, and anything not in is something that is only a couple of years old. If you look at the beginning and end of each chapter it has history about what has been done in the subfield that chapter is on. If you don't want to buy it and your local library dosen't have a copy I suggest you torrent it as it is a very good book.

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

but it's not clear to me that our advances in making a better OCR package work directly towards an effective general intelligence that can solve general-purpose problems.

All of these things are prerequisites to starting to build a general intelligence. They are very small steps on a very long path but it is progress in the AI field you have to take what you can get.

I'm just trying to say that every iteration of the neural net seems to involve iterating over every edge in the neural net. Every piece of knowledge has to be stored as an edge weighting in the neural net. As knowledge increases, each iteration will take longer linear in the number of edges.

A neural network dosen't change in size as you add "knowledge" to it. Also knowledge isn't really stored in a particular edge. In fact you can damage part of a neural net and it will degrad the performance overall but not make it forget specific things.

When I took a course on neural networks, it was a math class. We talked about how they are used to approximate functions. For example you have function that takes 100 arguments representing the bit in a 10x10 grid, it returns 1 if that grid looks like an A and 0 otherwise. At this level everything is just a bunch of matrix operations. In general for any function their exists a neural that will approximate it to a given accuracy. This is where we get the idea that a very large neural net could act intelligently, if you define a function that is how a human acts. However, one very big issue with this is having memory of past actions which are not really represented in Neural Networks.

In "Computing Machinery and Intelligence", Turing described "educating" a child AI. I was wondering whether the interactive education process that we rely on for human education might be too hard to run cheaply for AI.

It is meaningless to try and educate a an AI like we try educate a human. It would be like trying to educate a virus. It just can't be done in any meaningful way at this point. AI's can't ask questions and use the results to build a conceptual model of the world. One group is trying to manually build a conceptual model, by creating rules like, "A bird is a mammal", or a "Cars drive on a road" I think they hope to have a good model of the world in about 50 years at the rate they are going (though it is useful in specific domain right now).

I once read something where an author was proposing that to make an AI that could interact and communicate with humans, one would need to have a rather humanlike robot, so that the AI could experience the world around it as it grew and learned.

Building a human like robot is easy compared to building the AI that will go in it. Though honestly I don't see as a necessary step, I bet simply interacting with people online would be sufficient to demonstrate intelligence. The point is we are no where close to building a robot child that needs human interactions. It is great to speculate about what form a strong AI will take but I believe that when we are close to building one it will become obvious and probably different from what everyone has predicted. Just look at people's prediction of what the Internet would be like from 30 years ago.

In short AI is still at the point where is just solving what most people would see as tricky math problems. It is true that "what should I do tonight?" could be represented as a math problem, but it many orders of magnitude of orders of magnitude harder than what AI is solving now.

Ditch euro? Many Greeks already are by jjeremyharrelsonin economy

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

I am sorry, I meant to say Bad money drives out the good.

If that is so why hasn't the US dollar been replaced with the Zimbabwe dollar. I don't think I understand what you mean by bad money and good money.

I would say that the governmental legal tender laws and the benefit of price controls which come with it have erroded to a point where alternate forms of competeing currencies are being exchanged.

Legal tender laws and price controls are different things.

Next the black market has nothing to do with a depression. People use the black market to obtain illegal services or avoid paying taxes. In this case I believe it is the latter.

Death Tax Logic by Libertythoughtsin Libertarian

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

Yeah I think I'm going to have to unsubcribe Libertarian over this. It's a real shame, maybe if they we institued hard rules like the AskScience reddit.

A Muslim teenager was murdered by her parents for bringing “shame” on her Pakistani-born parents by leading a Western way of life and trying to go on dates with boys in the UK. by douchebag_duryodhanain worldnews

[–]lotu 18 points19 points ago

Typically you fly back to your tribe marry someone and they fly back with them. This is a really good deal for you wife btw.

Ditch euro? Many Greeks already are by jjeremyharrelsonin economy

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

Okay, just to get this straight you are saying that this private currency used in these towns is more stable than the Euro? That if this private currency became widespread it would be able to handle all the abuses that happen in currency trading, and surplant the Euro?

Ditch euro? Many Greeks already are by jjeremyharrelsonin economy

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

What evidence do you have for this? Or is my sarcasm detector in need of recalibration?

Upside Down Apple Logo by dzamirin apple

[–]lotu 0 points1 point ago

Also, I think it important to realize how a laptop is used changed. Ten years ago, laptops were heaver, more expensive, had shorter battery life, wifi wasn't standard yet, and Facebook didn't exist. The desire to be social while using a laptop didn't really exist in the 1990s, but when you are being social your laptop is part of how you look to other people. So having the logo upside-down makes you look clueless, just like if your shirt had it's logo upside down.

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

Okay, I'm actually still a grad student. I'm can't speak on the state of the whole AI field in part because it is so huge. But I don't think their is anything big "blocking" the field, perhaps except for unrealistic expectations. AI has been making slow and steady progress, and we now see things that would have been "AI" in our daily life. For example phone help menus, Google search, finding directions, adaptive cruise control, OCR.

The biggest issue with doing AI research is the punishing difficulty curve. You get early success, and then after that everything is impossible. In two of the projects I've worked on we achieved something cool in the first weeks and then weren't able to improve on it despite lots of time testing things. I don't really have a good reason why this happens and I bet if I did it would make a really good paper.

Things like Clever Bot look really impressive and make people (including AI researchers) think something big is right over the horizon. But if you examine it the tricks it is using aren't very impressive and nowhere close to being intelligent. Try interrogating it, ask open ended questions (why do you like X), and don't let it change the subject. I speculate that this is difficult to do in part because as people we don't like to see Clever Bot struggle and try to help it by asking the right questions. (Clever Bot is actually quite impressive btw.)

As for a big neural net it just doesn't work well beyond recognition. If you have something specific like recognize characters or sounds it works very well. In this case you feed the black and white image in to the neural net and if it is an "A" on output is high, "B" a different output. But when it comes to making decisions, or coming up with a plan in a large space neural networks just fail. Even trying to build a failing neural network might not be possible. For example you have a robotic warehouse filled with a million products, 100 robots, and 10,000 orders that need to be filled today. You need to plan that tells the robots what to do. How do you feed this information in to a neural net? What would the output represent? Honestly I have no idea.

In the artificial neural nets I've seen described, computational cost is at least linear in the amount of knowledge the system has.

That sounds like a non-constructive theoretical result, which means that such neural network exists but we don't know how to find it.

Is it that automated interactive teaching is too hard?

Not sure what you mean, by automated interactive this is kinda of contribution. When training a neural net you need a large amount of (input, output) pairs to use. This can be very time consuming to obtain.

Is it that there are some fundamental problems with AIs lacking "common developmental experience" with humans that make it hard to translate to an AI's standpoint?

I'm not sure what you mean by "developmental experience" but I don't think AI's have one, much less one that is shared with humans. They also don't have a standpoint, AI's are still way to simple to have these things.

Hope this helps. And feel free to ask any other questions you have.

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 4 points5 points ago

Ah the one field that beats CS in starting salary. But do you get to slack off on your job the way we do?

Robert Reich to new college grads: "You're f*cked." by ratlaterin economy

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

Interesting read, as an AI researcher I can offer some assurance that the field is not progressing towards a human like intelligence very quickly, it's actually kinda frustrating. We are stuck and for the foreseeable future going to be having AI solve a problem assigned to them by humans, in a way designed by humans. You aren't going to see a all AI movie in your lifetime.

Honestly, is Diablo 3 worth it? by Agent00funkin truegaming

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

He is giving out some very good advice, and potentially preventing hundreds of people from failing their finals.

Honestly, is Diablo 3 worth it? by Agent00funkin truegaming

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

I found it fun for at least an hour or two, which is much better than you typically get get with these types of random banter, which gets old after 4 or 5 mintues.

ONLY IN...AMERICA. by ronpaulkidin Libertarian

[–]lotu 3 points4 points ago

For the record OJ Simpson is currently serving a 33 year sentence for kidnapping and armed robbery. OJ got off because he had access to a good lawyer in many countries he would have gotten off by giving the judge his autograph and helping out his kids.

Also, go ask Bernie Madoff if being rich means you get off scott free. The fact is rich people tend to commit crimes that are difficult to prosecute, in part because they have the education to know these things. But to suggest that US has corruption problems anywhere close to what is seen in China, Iran or even India is absurd.

ONLY IN...AMERICA. by ronpaulkidin Libertarian

[–]lotu 4 points5 points ago

Also, if you know the right people, or can bribe the right people you don't end up in prison at all, as long as you aren't acting against the goverment.

What the heck happened, SciFi/Syfy? by blacpetein scifi

[–]lotu 1 point2 points ago

Sounds like you have a plan.

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