5 Weeks of Go

uriel · 2012-05-25T04:39:32.837436-07:00

I didn't say that, I only very strongly implied it!

(Java is a bloated piece of junk, though)

uriel · 2012-05-25T04:38:32.478259-07:00

Oh, not at all. I'm the worst.

uriel · 1 day

I'm only guessing now, but I don't think the designers or users of Go are looking forward to a future where "enterprise type projects" or huge teams or codebases exist. The things you list are all rather trivial stuff if your language/platform isn't a piece of bloated junk.

uriel · 1 day

I have more than a decade of experience from the field almost a decade of which is professional experience. It is quite safe to say that forced formatting is a very good idea indeed.

Thus, consider the guy unfucked.

Rachel53461 · 1 day

I remember accidentally stopping a game once and then typing

LIST

just on a hunch and seeing bunch of lines of Basic. I could actually find out some things from the game mechanics that way.

The game was Sid Meier's Pirates! on C64.

mepper · 2 days

If this is actually science-based, it is a good thing. However, does Monsanto work like that? Aren't its inventions secrets?

mepper · 2 days

Without education, is that really gonna help? I'm not gonna fall into a racist "they gonna breed like rabbits" -rant, but really... isn't the core problem of famine population, not absolute lack of food?

SciddlyWuds · 2 days

Obviously, I can eat out women with true enthusiasm. I've heard it can be ... gross. I love it.

I can smell and I am sorry to say that you have missed out on something.

firexq · 2 days

I do actually develop for a distro (no, I'm not trying to make that one statically linked, because it's a non-experimental distro with real users, and I work in a team there), but I'd rather keep that personality away from this one.

edit I kinda understand that you would downvote my other comments, but this? Do you disagree with me? Don't you like the fact that I am a distro developer? Or are you just hating the fact that knowledgeable people like me can support something you ignorantly do not like?

firexq · 2 days

I realize now (but don't actually get why) that this issue is somewhat emotion evoking. Nevertheless, we should try to remain sane in the discussion.

Plan9 (or the community continued version 9front) to my knowledge upgrades constantly, and pushes the updates by sources currently. I never used it, but seem to remember that Plan9 itself synchronized binaries in somewhat a same manner as rsync, as server/client replication. Perhaps 9front is using that too, I'm not sure.

See http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/staying_up_to_date/index.html

Also, why would any computer system need to scale to hunderds of thousands of binaries? Even my current bloat of a Linux has less than two thousand files in /usr/bin

Plan 9 is clearly a scientific project, indeed, a research project. Calling it and its result non-scientific tells me that you are a bit confused about the whole matter. Perhaps read up on it a bit? That plan9 wiki is a good start.

The non-scientific metric I used here to say that static linking in Plan9 works just fine is the fact that they are using it, nobody is suggesting dynamic libraries, and nobody thinks not having them is a bad problem.

firexq · 2 days

Your 'waiting for packages to arrive' is mostly a problem of your distribution, and they should be up to it without too much hassle.

But yes, you're right in that the process of security upgrades would be a bit different.

firexq · 2 days

Yes, this is exactly the attitude we get. Do you think it adds to how much I respect you?

Nope, you're just a jerk in the internet. Have you thought of getting a life instead of being that?

Cameronisftw · 2 days

Intelligent design.

firexq · 2 days

That is true.

However, I think it would be useful to separate these two things: "Would a system be better if it was designed to be statically linked?" and "Would a current GNU/Linux system, designed to be dynamically linked, work well if we just turned off dynamic linking?"

firexq · 2 days

Drepper's rant against static linking might be interesting to this thread: http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/no_static_linking.html

firexq · 2 days

glib is simple?

firexq · 2 days

Yes, I am convinced by his arguments. That doesn't make them wrong, in fact, isn't it quite the opposite?

firexq · 2 days

Trust me, no one is thinking of abandoning dynamic linking.

Yes we are.

firexq · 2 days

If you consider that a danger, then it is also dangerous that when a shared library gets a new vulnerability, now all your programs that link against it have the vulnerability.

firexq · 2 days

Some should at least give it a shot. That shouldn't hurt anyone's pride. If it's better, it will be obvious enough that all the others can follow suit (or vanish into obsolescence).

Of course, there's the problem that everybody tends to rely on dynamic linking. Modern GNU/Linux is quite hostile to pure statically linked environment, so having trouble in that environment is to be expected.

firexq · 2 days

I wish we could stop having this discussion, there's a very clear correct answer.

I wish somebody built and proved/disproved the idea instead of just jerkoffs like you and grelphy and inmatarian spewing your non-scientific bullshit on everyone!

(Yes, it's on my todo list)

Or you could just take a look at Plan 9, which already did prove that at least as proof-of-concept it works just fine!

syuk · 2 days

Although... UK being in the euro would have been a huge change, things would certainly be different now.

Circlepuller · 4 days

Anyone who thinks that's assault should be beaten... oh wait

btrfly · 5 days

Additionally, it was totally cool to be openly hostile to my beliefs just like it is here in Reddit.

To be fair, you guys did that to us for more than a thousand years.

ProjectStormy · 7 days

Can you recommend porn that works for women, or do you just watch the ehhh regular stuff? My missus has not found any she likes and I'd like her to

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