I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If the media doesn't care about peaceful protestors getting shot in the face, then we should do the following.

lifeislame · 3 months

I admit they are similar in that they both result in the removal of information; however, the goal of moderation is to keep discussion on-topic and to remove offensive language, etc., while the goal of censorship is to suppress information and stifle debate.

hazysummersky · 3 months

Reddit is owned by Conde Nast. If they (or reddit) were interested in fixing it they would have done so already.

hazysummersky · 6 months

The lack of interest is not sad; it's calculated. If anything it's testament to the power of Reddit, that shills feel the need to come here and intervene.

TrickinVixen · 7 months

You just said that A doesn't cause C, but that A causes B and B causes C. Have you never heard of the transitive property of equality??

klmd · 10 months

You are listing trivial reasons to try and prematurely eliminate an extremely viable hypothesis at best, and spreading disinformation at worst.

Facts about Stuxnet:

Can infect ANY system created by Siemens (the majority of power plants worldwide)
Can make the system appear to be functioning normally while causing critical systems to malfunction

Apply this to the Fukushima reactor, and you can easily imagine a scenario where the C.I.A./Mossad caused or waited for an earthquake, offered military assistance (which was quickly granted), entered the premises on that pretense, and uploaded the virus that made the reactors' cooling systems fail.

Even without Stuxnet, the feat could still have been accomplished with a simple bomb. The key takeaway is that Israel was in charge of security at Fukushima.

redikulous · 10 months

This comment is completely irrelevant and a distraction.

redikulous · 10 months

True, but there is a difference. I remember a time before subreddits, when 9/11 being an inside job was a foregone conclusion, straight fact. Reddit was filled with smart, articulate people who, even if they disagreed with you, would do so maturely. There was virtually no trolling to speak of.

I'm not saying that the current state of reddit is all due to shills, but when you keep in mind that 1 shill has the potential ability to control 10-50 online personas, you begin to get a picture of how big a problem this is going to become.

klmd · 10 months

No, the smoking gun is that an Israeli defense firm was in charge of installing the security systems at the Fukushima plant.

Link to article

This fact, combined with recent news that the U.S. and Israel have jointly developed a virus called Stuxnet intended to infect nuclear power plants giving the hacker the ability to control the system without knowledge of operators including shutting down critical system safeguards, lends credence to the hypothesis that the United States and Israel were behind a criminal conspiracy to blow up the Fukushima nuclear power plant.

Cragvis · 10 months

DAE judge a conspiracy theory by how many shills comment against it?

By that metric, this one's pretty good.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

Yes.

Moldavite · 10 months

It did, in multiple posts. They have all been buried.

Here's a link to an article revealing that an Israeli firm installed the security systems at the Fukushima plant. It kind of blew my mind. By comparison, HAARP posts regarding Japan are a dime a dozen.

warbaby-baby · 10 months

It seems to me the most obvious way to limit the effect of astroturfers in /r/conspiracy is to have active mods.

I have dearly wished for this power so that I may delete meaningless or distracting comments that don't contribute to discussion.

I know this subreddit's mods have been around for a while, but I never see them post here.

If we had just one attentive mod who could filter out even just the spiteful one-word replies on these forums, we'd immediately have a better discussion board already.

EverythingIsFine · 10 months

Is he really "pretty much slaughtering people and waging war on his own capita"? Or is he defending himself from "rebel forces" curiously well-equipped and organized?

This may not be the start of WWIII, but after witnessing two false wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as two true uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt (not to mention hastily censored reports of civilian casualties in Libya caused by air strikes), I think even red-blooded conservatives in America are waking up to the very obvious reality that this is no peacekeeping operation.

EverythingIsFine · 10 months

Central Bank of Iraq established in 2004.

EverythingIsFine · 10 months

Some websites say so, but I did some research and discovered that Iran joined the IMF way back a long time ago. Still, because of its current troubles I speculate that Iran might be trying to wrest back some measure of independence in this regard. Here's an article I stumbled across just now:

Libyan Central-Bank Governor Is Replaced

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

You're nit-picking. My point is not only valid; it's practically common sense.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

Even disregarding #3, 1 and 2 are still ridiculous.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

Agreed with everything you said except the part about it not being effective.

Unfortunately. =/

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

You are out of touch with reality if you downvote me for laughing at your post. You think the government turns a blind eye to a popular website that breaks news, makes Presidents, and leaks regime-changing information every other day...seriously?

Think about this for a few minutes.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

You not being an astroturfer, and astroturfers not existing, are also two different things.

Your argument is so simple and incomplete that I find it hard to believe even you could be convinced by it.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

Translation:

They're not astroturfers, they're trolls.
The ones who aren't trolls are just critical thinkers making legitimate downvotes.
It got upvoted, therefore it's not astroturf.

Written your way it sounds reasonably convincing.

Written my way it sounds like you think we're fucking idiots or something.

laughquietlytomyself · 10 months

There were a lot of them; can you summarize the main takeaway?

EverythingIsFine · 10 months

All,

The real reason we are invading Libya is to install a Rothschilds/IMF-controlled central bank in that nation.

Libya is one of only a few remaining nations in the whole world without one. Cuba, North Korea, and Sudan are the others. Small wonder why we won't leave them alone. Iraq was part of this group until 2004.

nellaselendil · 10 months

A fresh perspective, thank you.

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