Gay penguin couple receives a donated egg! They're finally becoming dads!

BreathlessFlame · 2012-05-24T16:35:46.033814+00:00

It's a been anthropogenic to call animals "gay", because of the difficulty in finding out what they think. Instead, biologists talk about homosexual behavior. We observe animals exhibiting homosexual behavior. The layman term is calling it gay, but don't think this is the same standard held in the scientific community.

Also, keep in mind that a lot of homosexual activity in animals was either under-reported or misreported in terms of scientific historiography. Homosexual coupling (such as two male giraffes copulating) was just written off as a dominance ritual or just left out.

Also, one last thing: homosexual behavior has been observed in just about every animals species we have looked at. Homophobic behavior has only been observed in one animal species.

Safarianna · 2012-05-24T16:29:36.290098+00:00

If the law is unjust, what's the issue? Henry David Thoreau wrote about this subject a long time ago.

Also, it doesn't matter if someone is a life-long citizen or an immigrant. Every person deserves equal protection under the law. The American constitution guarantees the bill of rights for all persons under American jurisdiction, not just citizens. Why else do you think that green card holders have the right to free speech?

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T16:27:17.358212+00:00

During the period the great MLK Jr. was alive, blacks were unilaterally disadvantaged socially and legally.

Actually, that's not true. Like I said, black people had privileges too, like they had their own water fountains and schools and churches that white people were basically not allowed to go to. How come MLK never fought for the rights of white people to enjoy these things that are only for blacks?

areas where men are oppressed seem largely invisible.

There is not a single society in the world right now where men are oppressed at the expense of women. None. Nada. Zip. There never has been either. And, thanks to feminism, which pushes for EQUAL rights for genders, there never will be. The patriarchy hurts men. Feminism addresses this.

TheMartinConan · 2012-05-24T16:17:47.455920+00:00

Yep. Good thing Nelson Mandela and Desmund Tutu kept quiet about Apartheid, or it would have never gone away.

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T15:39:26.367924+00:00

What feminist organizations don't have a good record on is reducing areas where men are oppressed.

You're right. Also, Martin Luther King Jr. didn't have a good record on reducing areas where white people are oppressed.

The organization I want to donate time and money to is one that wants equality for everyone.

Exactly, that's why I'm against Martin Luther King Jr. Until he campaigns for the rights of white people with as much fervent as he does for black people, he's just trying to make one group overpowered. Black people are privileged in society too. For example, white people aren't allowed to drink from the colored fountain. How come Martin Luther King isn't fighting for the rights of white people to be able to drink from colored fountains? He's just a black supremacist who doesn't care about and marginalizes the rights of whites.

I don't take Martin Luther King's group serious because he only champions one cause: the equal rights for blacks. This is also why I hate the ACLU, because they don't defend the second amendment. Also, I hate the NRA for not defending the fifth amendment. Also, how come Amnesty International doesn't report on the prevalence of obesity? How come the NAACP doesn't push for equal rights for Kurds in Iraq?

I'm an EGALITARIAN and support everyone's rights at once and will not focus on one particular issue, because all these injustices are equally pressing and that having one single organization that addresses everything is better than having specialized organizations that focus on particular injustices. Elective male circumcision is just as bad as cutting off all of a woman's external genitalia without her consent.

Also, there is this one obscure society where women have more than one husband, see? It goes both ways. Also, the Bible says that a woman has the right to be forced to marry her rapist if she's a virgin. See? FEMALE PRIVILEGE.

Also, another female privilege is in Saudi Arabia. What about all the men that are forced to drive women around everywhere? How come nobody ever campaigns for the plight of Saudi men who are reduced to chauffeurs? This is misandry at its finest.

davidreiss666 · 2012-05-24T15:21:32.051729+00:00

Uh, no? How, for example, is Zoroastrianism racist? I think it's pretty clear that Judaism has some explicit racist themes in it, for example when there are numerous passages in the Bible where an entire nation of people are judged based on the actions of a few members. ALL AMALEKITES ARE EVIL AND DESERVE TO DIE!!!!! (except for the ones we will take as sex slaves)

littlemeggers · 2012-05-24T15:08:41.149425+00:00

What was he going to take, her my little pony collection?

Considering that plush toys of MLP get sold for thousands on ebay, yes.

089786 · 2012-05-24T15:06:27.249980+00:00

Thanks, edited my post.

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T15:05:34.502801+00:00

The word "feminism" does not mean gender equality.

"Feminism is a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women."

equal political, economic, and social rights for women

Try again?

the word is still "female-ism". That does, and will always bother me. Gendered words for equality don't work.

No it's not! It's not female-ism, it's feminism. Femininity is not just for women! It's for everyone! It's okay to be feminine, whether you're a boy or a girl! Your gender policing notwithstanding.

there are large numbers of feminists and MRAs who hate the other gender.

Sweeping generalizations with no evidence whatsoever. Pulling a Colbert here and going with what feels true instead of evidence-based theories?

Both men and women recieve systematic injustices and inequalities. As it's not a contest over who is oppressed more, there's no need to attempt to diminish the other side.

If it's not a contest, then why do you feel the need to press the issue of false rape accusations here? Why is it that, in every submission about rape victims here on 2x, someone here does the WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ parade? Your words don't exist in a vacuum.

Why does mensrights keep invading 2x? Why don't they just keep to their own subreddit? Does 2x invade mensrights?

your definition of rape is overly broad

Ah, thanks, professor in rapeology. Where did you get your degree in shitlordery from?

089786 · 2012-05-24T14:57:36.159144+00:00

Honestly, it's hard to judge a person's outlook based on one facebook post. Unless this is just another status update out of many that degrade women who don't agree with her lifestyle, I see no reason to read too much into it and assume she hates women who drink and have promiscuous sex.

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T14:11:23.078743+00:00

ad hominim attack

Listen, I believe in racial equality, and there's a reason why I don't go to stormfront and waste my time debating whether or not blacks are subhumans day and night. That's why I'm dismissing your argument. This is 2x for fuck's sake. I mean, really?

-I'm an athiest

Ok and? So was Mussolini. This on its own doesn't mean shit. (BTW it's spelled atheist)

-I don't like either the term "feminism" or "men's rights advocate" when both claim to want equality but think partisian titles aren't a huge roadblock

Uh, it's not the same thing. Feminism means gender equality and has centuries of history. It's a field of study and a major offered at just about every prestigious university worldwide. MRA is just a bunch of people who hate women, and they yell about it on the Internet. They're not two equally opposite forces butting heads.

labeling me a bigot to cover for your intellectual weaknesses.

???

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T08:00:20.628745+00:00

The OP was not tricked into performing a sex act.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, frequent contributor to the Mens Rights Subreddit. I'm sorry for wasting both of our times.

"you're still a twat"

Comparing a little girl defending herself against a rapist with two grown men attacking each other

Calling the patriarchy "non-existent"

"I don't like the term[...] "feminist""

Telling women you know better than them what their orgasms feel like

I stopped going further than this because I couldn't find any posts that weren't pushing an atheist viewpoint in /r/christianity . I guess you have a history of invading safe spaces.

For someone who argues so much for rationalism, you sure seem to dismiss the entire science of sociology quite a bit in your anti-women rantings.

peetss · 2012-05-24T07:10:12.883911+00:00

Uh, if the blacks didn't catch slaves, the whites would just take the slavers themselves...

oops, sorry to interrupt the circlejerk, white men are the most oppressed minority in the world!

davidreiss666 · 2012-05-24T07:06:08.569918+00:00

Judaism is a racist religion...

Judasim isn't only a religion , but a culture.

Ah thanks, let me clarify my statement:

Judaism is a racist culture.

Thanks.

PrinceDakkar · 2012-05-24T00:00:20.265518-07:00

Neither is raping children. Ain't that some shit?

salvia_d · 2012-05-24T06:55:06.974605+00:00

Actually, for those who are wondering, Russia does its share of catching pirates too.

089786 · 2012-05-24T06:50:26.128129+00:00

The content of her post didn't seem offensive. Since when is being straight-edge anti-women or anti-feminist? In fact I see it the other way around: it sounds like you're angry that she's living her life the way she wants it, and not the way that the media (& sex industry) portrays women to be.

edit: sorry, missed the part about how this person does this often. Yes, she's a scumbag then.

bratty_duck · 2012-05-24T06:47:02.291652+00:00

Pro-life isn't an inherently sexist opinion to hold.

Taking away a woman's right to control her body is sexist. Valuing a microscopic zygote over an adult woman is sexist. Protesting outside abortion clinics and slutshaming people who go to PP is sexist.

I'm sorry, but the correlation between sexism and pro-life is very high.

mkwise13 · 2012-05-24T06:39:50.231786+00:00

That's just cherry picking. Try 1 Corinthians 11:3:

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."

Definitely a hierarchy that places women below men here.

Special pleading in 3...2...1...

Safarianna · 2012-05-24T06:34:02.080022+00:00

If she violates the dress code by having her hair like that, that's an argument against the dress code, not her.

CanadianControl · 2012-05-24T06:23:55.427705+00:00

HURR HURR ORIGINAL 151 BEST I PLAYED FIRE RED AS A KID ALL THE NEW POOKEYMANZ SUCK UPVOTES TO THE LEFT

iia · 2012-05-24T03:52:14.249241+00:00

Explain to me how this "de facto slavery" works, and how it's a race issue and not a class issue.

It's an autological term. It means exactly what its words describe. If you need further help, use Wikipedia. Not sure where race vs class comes on here, I didn't bring it up.

"systematic oppression of women" is nothing more than women making different life choices

So women being unable to vote or run in elections in a lot of places in the world is just women making different life choices? Women being unable to DRIVE in Saudi Arabia is just a different life choice? Really?

When society gives them the equal opportunity to do so, women DO rise to power. That's why there are plenty of nations that have had women has heads of state (but not the United States, the land of the free!).

When you're falsely accused of rape, then you didn't rape anyone, by definition. Do you know about the hofstra case? She claimed rape to avoid being called a slut. On top of that, a woman who appears to be "fully aware and consenting and totally into you" could be blacked-out drunk and making a mistake without you even realizing it.

This one time where a woman lied = all women lie about having sex and regretting it. Nice logic there.

iia · 2012-05-24T03:40:26.378956+00:00

crimes of the past

Uh, there is still racism and sexism in society today. Have you looked at Saudi Arabia? Have you looked at Israel? Have you looked at Africa? Apartheid South Africa dismantled in 1994. This isn't some "distant past" bullshit. You know that if you go to a synagogue in New York City today you can find living people that have numbers tattooed on their arms, right?

edit: to be clear, when talking about Israel, I'm talking about the racism on both sides, not singling out one particular side.

iia · 2012-05-24T03:33:44.882758+00:00

Slavery is illegal now.

There are still parts of the world where slavery is legal. Also, there is plenty of de facto slavery in the world, even in places where slavery is illegal on the books.

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Missing. The. Point. I'm talking about systemic oppression of women vs systemic oppression of men. One of them is real. The other is fake. Guess which?

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Want to avoid being accused of rape? DON'T RAPE. DON'T HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE UNLESS THAT PERSON IS FULLY AWARE AND CONSENTING AND TOTALLY INTO YOU. Problem fucking solved. I have no sympathy for rapists.

I'm sorry, but it's not "hard" to not rape someone. This is a bullshit myth. You don't get a fucking medal for not taking advantage of a woman. Oh wait, this is r/adviceanimals, where if a person doesn't rape, he's considered Good Guy Greg.

longshotmcgee · 2012-05-24T03:30:08.218155+00:00

This submission is about a woman that was tricked into performing a sex act. They lied to her. It's not vague at all. What they did was rape. I'm not sure where you're getting the vagueness from. The topic here is pretty clear.

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