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[–]Ronbo795 201 points202 points ago

4gates idrA and wins on the ladder... the next 10 minutes of his stream is him making a TL post about it. Thats when i tapped out .

[–]logipond 17 points18 points ago

Can anybody link this thread? I'm interested lol

[–]Zerunai 9 points10 points ago

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=240438

and

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234311

they may not be the exact thread he was talking about but I think you can get the jist, just got the links from rei in the TL thread.

[–]ParadoxD 21 points22 points ago

and then Sheth shuts him down.

[–]ravenx1 1 point2 points ago

But Kiwikaki said ez. So?

[–]Damwing 7 points8 points ago

what a joke. Making a blog about how youre defeating Idra with a 4gate. Such a bowz

[–]llama3ater 1 point2 points ago

I think the best part is that he called it "4 gate pressure expand" lmfao

[–]stalife 351 points352 points ago

pretty sure nobody's gonna read this, but I've had a bad impression with desrow long time ago. He once asked me for practice games, and I said sure, why not. He proceeded to 2gate proxy inside my base. I wasn't sure what to think, but I decided to not "practice" with him anymore

[–]dec0o 36 points37 points ago

Of course people will read what you say :P You're probably one of the most respectable people in sc2 imho.

[–]lifeflayer 1 point2 points ago

i still remember the stalife drop

[–]FXOfrequency 170 points171 points ago

Too much time trying to have showmatches with Dragon. Too much time tweeting about just playing vs IM B-teamers on ladder. Too much time uploading any random game on Youtube. Not enough time practicing :/

Got such a good opportunity, I hate to see people fuck it up.

[–]flaggan 32 points33 points ago

You shouldn't hate on FXOSlog mate, not cool :(

[–]ROOTCatZ 407 points408 points ago

hi, my name is catz, you can dislike me as much as you want too, I just wanted to say: I really dislike desrow

[–]ROOTCatZ 134 points135 points ago

just trying to raise awareness about desRow as far as im concerned he's worse than SOPA

[–]Lysander151 16 points17 points ago

Cat has proven over the years to be an excellent judge of character. +1

[–]zabuma 3 points4 points ago

Even worse than Super AIDS to be honest...

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points ago

I do not like your definition of 4 minutes. -.- But the rest of you is fabulous! :D

[–]styleEnzo 119 points120 points ago

SO BRAVE

[–]macadactyl 8 points9 points ago

The "Catz doesn't like you" deathknell has been sounded. Paulo, who are you endorsing for 2012 USA president?

[–]reykaveyk 3 points4 points ago

There's few sc2 streamers I don't adblock, you're my favorite of them. Good stuff bro, bringing in quality. Hell, I even like your dota2.

[–]Crowned 510 points511 points ago

"Sure, he's one of the best" wat

[–]xyos 9 points10 points ago

i remember him suggesting "add 3 button commercial for streammers" wtf... http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/o38fb/twitchtv_knowledge_bomb_no_1_advertising/c3e0ct0

[–]ejackso1 4 points5 points ago

Own3Dtv has one. Most of the Koreans commercial three times after one game. I know Bomber did it.

[–]daley42 10 points11 points ago

That's true; Fin, and Polt do this as well. One could argue, however, that their games are of superior quality.

[–]adigabear 42 points43 points ago

But guys like him can give hope to anyone in high-masters or GM who want to go pro. If a guy who plays awful can get 200-500 viewers on his stream and be sent to korea to train in the GOM house, then anybody can do it too if he devotes himself to it.

[–]dollarww25 72 points73 points ago

He wasnt "sent" to korea. He went with his own money. As for getting into the gom house, I dont know how one does that.

[–]S7Epic 120 points121 points ago

It's basically a hostel, only with far fewer Australians.

[–]zealoSC 34 points35 points ago

except when FXO first moved there

[–]Merlons 19 points20 points ago*

I believe the GOM house supports any foreigners who want to come to korea and have no place to practice in. I'm not sure of the details either though.

Edit: Apparently not everyone is allowed, read the comment below for more accurate information.

[–]etzy 18 points19 points ago*

No, that's not true. 1) A bunch of swedish players weren't allowed when they asked for it. 2) dBling looked to stay at a place in Korea after WCG, but he couldnt find a place (although the GOM house had some places left at that very moment) 3) SjoW has been looking for a place to stay for a long time, GOM didnt offer him anything.

[–]testbug0 8 points9 points ago

how the fuck did desrow get in then? ಠ_ಠ

[–]FreshPrinceOfAiur 8 points9 points ago

Perhaps a... well... GOM think he's relatable for a Western audience.

[–]macadactyl 6 points7 points ago

:D))))

[–]RoboSloth 6 points7 points ago

What the fuck... I'm pretty sure after every event that SjoW played vs koreans, when asked who they were most impressed by they almost always answered SjoW..even though other people placed higher, they always seem to see something special in SjoW. Why can't GOM see it?

[–]dementedgamer44 2 points3 points ago

Part of the agreement was for the GOM house to replace the doors with french doors.

Am I doing it right?

[–]nightss 2 points3 points ago

i don't really see this as a bad thing, if somebody is high masters or gm and decide to really devote themselves to it its awesome that things can go well for them.

As for desdrow, i remember awhile ago he was fighting with another protoss player in the gom house. Forget his name but i think he was sweedish. He was trying to help desdrow and desdrow said.

"fuck off, if i get better its not because of you"

He seems like a bit of an asshole if you ask me.

[–]mindsc2 100 points101 points ago

He is universally hated by DotA players. This is one of the reasons, I'm sure, that he switched to SC2 in an attempt to redefine his persona and become "e-famous." Naturally, it didn't take long for him to show his true personality (bad mannered, unintelligent, no self-respect, and otherwise bad) and subsequently lose all of the fans he gained while he pretended to be a decent person and a decent player.

DotA players have been warning people about his retardation on TL and other forums but instead of listening, everybody just assumed that people were trashing him for no reason and discounted all of the verifiable douchebaggery that he is known for.

[–]parsonskev 25 points26 points ago

THAT'S where I know his name from. All I remember from DotA is hearing fat jokes...

[–]piechjd 67 points68 points ago

Yea I have even been told by a player from an up and coming dota team a few years ago that he went on IRC under a name very similar to one of their members, talked shit about their sponsors hardcore, then sent screenshots to the sponsors about this. The sponsors ended up revoking sponsorship and the team broke up. This kid is the lowest of the low pieces of shit.

[–]soccermatt34 21 points22 points ago

WOW...that is scumbaggery

[–]secoNd_shoT 18 points19 points ago

proof? it's a horrible accusation and if it's true i'll lose all respect for desrow, but i think it's something like kennegit's combatex cancer story - please show evidence. thanks.

[–]piechjd 6 points7 points ago

Sorry, since this happened to a kid I know from dota I do not have any proof, and since it also happened like 2-3 years ago.

[–]Ataraxia60 7 points8 points ago

I hope this kid gets his pro gaming career attempt demolished.

[–]tCERadicate 22 points23 points ago

[–]TheRPGAddict 1 point2 points ago

Great find man!

[–]LaughingTrees 145 points146 points ago

People who pay $400/per hour for coaching are morons themselves.

[–]daylie 302 points303 points ago

Let alone coaching from desRow... might as well just get coaching from medium AI

[–]Ouchnottheface 25 points26 points ago

This was great.

[–]ryzohx 20 points21 points ago

spat my water, well played sir.

[–]toffeeapple89 14 points15 points ago

Best comment I have seen in a while. I will be suing you for splitting my sides.

[–]dementedgamer44 8 points9 points ago

Don't you mean large?

[–]ThomsonSyndrome 1 point2 points ago

"okay, now you want to build your 3rd macro hatchery, get a lair, get hydras roaches mutas and infestors. Expand? nope."

[–]theodb 11 points12 points ago

An interesting perspective I heard from IdrA as to why he charged $200/per hour or so was that he simply didn't have the time to be coaching people all the time. With a high price like this only people who have plenty of money(that's chump change to a lot of people) will do it which is a far more limited market. If he lowers the price then tons of people will want to do it but IdrA wants to practice his own skills, not teach noobs all day.

[–]TGAPYorick 2 points3 points ago

That is a very good way at looking at it. If the pro is still active I don't see why people should ask the pro to coach them when they have to train themselves.

[–]adigabear 25 points26 points ago

i dont believe anyone actually did that. as a matter of fact i doubt desrow gets any coaching requests.

[–]Knocker456 9 points10 points ago

I saw him teaching someone how to micro their stalkers against an opponent's stalkers. The student beat him during the example, and DesRow had the most awkward laugh afterwards...switched streams after that haha.

[–]n0vadragon 1 point2 points ago

link please???

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points ago

MaximusBlack got coaching from him. Birds of a feather.

[–]Pink_Cactus 22 points23 points ago

Maximus got coaching from him for free, so I suppose it doesn't hurt him that much.

[–]DerpStick 7 points8 points ago

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[–]RoboSloth 40 points41 points ago

I'd make a joke about it not falling far from the tree because desrow ate it, but we all know he doesn't eat fruit.

[–]Veex 20 points21 points ago

Totalbiscuit got coaching from him.

[–]Vulhulla 26 points27 points ago

I believe that was just for content for his show.

[–]ghostfacechilla 1 point2 points ago

Is this number real? Seriously i think $400/hr can get you Nestea for a day.

[–]NakedBurrito 191 points192 points ago*

He was also a bit BM trying to get that show match with Revival

  • [1/8/2012 12:00:54 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: u have revival skype?
  • [1/8/2012 12:01:22 AM] Musa*: yes
  • [1/8/2012 12:01:22 AM] Musa*: why
  • [1/8/2012 12:01:55 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: i want to showmatch him
  • [1/8/2012 12:01:57 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: give it to me plz
  • [1/8/2012 12:02:22 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: dood
  • [1/8/2012 12:02:24 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: i see you playing him
  • [1/8/2012 12:02:27 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: give it to meeeeeeee
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:00 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: give ittt
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:47 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: asd
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:47 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: asd
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:47 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: asd
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:48 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: asd
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:48 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: asd
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:51 AM] Musa*: he
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:52 AM] Musa*: wont
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:52 AM] Musa*: play
  • [1/8/2012 12:28:52 AM] Musa*: u
  • [1/8/2012 12:46:28 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: stfu
  • [1/8/2012 12:46:30 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: and give me his skype
  • [1/8/2012 12:46:30 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: wtf
  • [1/8/2012 12:46:31 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: so bm
  • [1/8/2012 12:50:13 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: dont be a dick
  • [1/8/2012 12:50:14 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: !!!
  • [1/8/2012 12:51:01 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: u didnt even asked him
  • [1/8/2012 12:51:08 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: im going to shit in your food once u come here
  • [1/8/2012 12:51:10 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: u god damn mexican
  • [1/8/2012 1:06:51 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: yea get raped by revival poor guy is wasting his time not even getting payed
  • [1/8/2012 1:06:54 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: at least i want to pay him
  • [1/8/2012 1:06:56 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: for the showmatch
  • [1/8/2012 1:09:21 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: ok kid
  • [1/8/2012 1:09:25 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: time to give it to me
  • [1/8/2012 1:10:00 AM] Musa*: im not giivng u shit
  • [1/8/2012 1:11:48 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: olOLLOLOLOLO
  • [1/8/2012 1:19:13 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: your bf will have to be kicked if u come here
  • [1/8/2012 1:19:16 AM] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: its so sad
  • [1/8/2012 1:38:21 AM] Musa*: ?

Another mod in Revivals chat comment:

Hahaha, wow. I was one of the mods in Revival's chat that was trying to help him out, but he was just being an asshole to us. He even called me a dumbass at some point among other things, and in general was very rude when I was only asking him for information about the showmatch so that I could pass it on to Revival. He never understood that Revival doesn't know who he is and that simply demanding his Skype wouldn't get him anywhere.

Source

I use to watch him but unsubscribed when he started trashing his viewers for giving him advice. It's really sad that a mod will delete this thread like the other Desrow hate threads that get up voted.

[–]Cerubellum 77 points78 points ago

Musa is Major (xSixWindy now I think), in case anyone is wondering.

[–]derpaling 46 points47 points ago

Windy? Are you fucking serious?

[–]etzy 24 points25 points ago

He actually calls himself NoNge now (after the bw player).

[–]iofthestorm 3 points4 points ago

All his IDs are from obscure BW players, or so he said in an interview.

[–]HappyVlane 2 points3 points ago

Correction: All of his IDs are from BW players that were better than IdrA (he said so on Catz's stream when he was playing a practice match against CombatEX).

[–]DuvamilStarcraft 1 point2 points ago

Is that Major? I thought that was someone else?

[–]ThePantyArcher 5 points6 points ago

He has like 50 id's. Always has. NoNge is him, or at least it was a couple weeks ago.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

I think we should just settle on calling him Major or Gosi[Terran].

[–]SyncOne 5 points6 points ago

or Juan. the only thing not constantly changing about his ID is his real name.

[–]joshr03 1 point2 points ago

Why the fuck can't he just settle on one name?

[–]TheAntZ 4 points5 points ago

Because hes a princess kitty

[–]Cerubellum 10 points11 points ago

[–]windyy 5 points6 points ago

yeah he stole my name. sucks.

[–]skochoer 1 point2 points ago

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]NakedBurrito 17 points18 points ago

Yeah major was the one that posted the convo in the thread, then later after Desrow had a chat with him; he edited it and said "nm best bros" lol. It's much like how Desrow said he is friends with IdrA and they just joke around like that. He obviously has some sort of ego issue's making him a bit delusional

[–]NotJordy 12 points13 points ago

Oh not again....

[–]sc2tltl 46 points47 points ago

Good, Revival shouldn't be wasting his time playing garbage.

[–]Noodl3s 14 points15 points ago

They did play and all four games took a about an hour tops for Revival to win. All Desrow did try to imitate the Kiwikaki Voidray/Zealot build and get crushed.

[–]LinkBalls 24 points25 points ago

I dunno, a free $50 sounds worth it.

[–]SnakeGrunger 7 points8 points ago

He not only gets pissed at people giving him advice in the chat after he loses a game, but he also bans people who dare speak his mother tongue (french).

[–]Pembury 11 points12 points ago

Did he actually think he had a chance against revival anyway?

[–]Poop_Is_Edible 80 points81 points ago

Its been known in the SC2 community for a long long time that DesRow is an idiot.

[–]shaun252 65 points66 points ago

Played him once on ladder on eu, I scout his proxy on shattered in between the bases(the most obvious spot for a proxy), he then started to call me a map hacker, I prepared well enough to defend and he then dropped and started spamming me calling me a drophacker.

TL;DR hes a dick who looks like a really overweight chipmunk

[–]Xaeldaren 133 points134 points ago

One of the best? In comparison to what, toddlers?

[–]FrankWalls 16 points17 points ago*

Compared to the rest of the sc2 populace, yes.

edit: spelling t_t

[–]soooHawt 4 points5 points ago

populace?

[–]FrankWalls 4 points5 points ago

Yes yes you are correct. I don't use that word often :)

[–]soooHawt 5 points6 points ago

=D i was confused for a moment

[–]vVvReseT 9 points10 points ago

I guess I can just put my opinion on here also. I've known Desrow since Warcraft III and I hated the guy. A couple of weeks before he went to Korean I decided to watch his stream and be nice to him.. To my surprise, I thought he played pretty decent beating some ok players on ladder. I continued to watch and that's when I learned how big of a dick he is.. I mean the guy is the biggest asshole ever. He bans people for trying to give him "Advice" on his stream, then he plays a commercial.. These are people who for some stupid reason is trying to help your ass get better, yet you ban them for helping you? Just because you think your better then them.. Your obviously doing something wrong if your losing over and over...

[–]arena_say_what 34 points35 points ago

lol firefox adblock ftw

[–]Draber-Bien 1 point2 points ago

You know it won't make idiots go away, right?

[–]FranktheTankk1 51 points52 points ago

I don't like DesRow's coaching. Months ago when he used to stream his Coaching he would continue to get frustrated and bm on stream when the student would do things a lower level league would do, like say keeping up with making probes or larva injects. He would talk down the students. I told myself I would never pay money to this guy so he could "yell" at me on stream in front of everyone like that. I don't deserve that treatment.

The second thing that made me not want to support this guy. Used to do this on stream a lot. Is that he used to play other peoples accounts for money for the sole purpose of getting accounts into a higher league. Which is typically called power leveling. Its sad to me to see this "pro" player endorse this type of activity when he claims to be a "coach". In coaching he tells students to "practice", yet soon as hes done teaching he hops on to one of the power-leveling accounts to "work". If you read the ToS with starcraft it does not condone this behavior.

Also he seems like a self absorbed money hunger bitch.

[–]ntntnghia 23 points24 points ago

Just curious, do you like Destiny?

[–]NeoDestiny 97 points98 points ago

I used to powerlevel accounts, but demand dropped off when I raised my prices so much. If people want it, it's dumb to turn down easy money, but I've always been honest about it and told people it was a waste of time.

[–]DuvamilStarcraft 33 points34 points ago

I never see why people do it.

"Yeah, my accounts in Masters, but I can't play it anymore otherwise I'll lose every game...yaaaay"

ಠ_ಠ

[–]Corbenik 43 points44 points ago

People tend to think that deep down inside they are master strategist who simply can't get past all of the cheese that plagues the lower leagues. Reality is a bitch.

[–]mindspike 4 points5 points ago

They want the prestige but they don't want to work for it. Same reason people cheat in school. Yes, people are dumb.

[–]plaird 10 points11 points ago

Except cheating in school has a reward whereas power leveling is just to increase the size of your e-penis

[–]Draber-Bien 5 points6 points ago

Are you saying my E-penis is small!?!

[–]Billagio 1 point2 points ago

Yes. No go have destiny powerlevel you!

[–]Buttpudding 78 points79 points ago

Prediction: Everyone will get their hate out of the way, then there will be a thread going after all the people that hated on Desrow white knighting him hard and riding the dick of any esport personality that comes on here and defends desrow. This shit is clockwork.

[–]besteady 20 points21 points ago

prediction: reddit is a bunch of whinny babies no matter what the issue.

[–]bauski 2 points3 points ago

prediction: I am going to laugh and then go back to playing starcraft. But yeah, this guy sounds like a not very nice person.

[–]siqx 7 points8 points ago

Watched his stream a bit some time ago. Didn't like him as a person and stopped watching. Simple as that.

[–]passive1121 22 points23 points ago

For everyone who is commentating, you don't have to "read" this thread, it got to the top by being a very good thread. I started tuning into his thread around August, thinking he was a good guy I started some coaching sessions with him. He would scream at me to do things his way, never appealing to my style of play. Than when I stopped contacting him, he messaged me around 3 times asking me when I wanted to do more coaching, when I said that I just didn't want anymore but would definitively get some in the future after I decided if I wanted to continue using his style of play. He instant started bm'ing me and removed me from skype and banned me. Great guy for the community.... right, all I've seen is DRAMA follow this guy everywhere, he hypes himself up 100 times a day, and when something doesn't go his way he cries. Sorry I've given him a chance as has Knowone572 and we ALL feel this way, if you support him than this is not your thread. It's #2 ranked on reddit and most people agree with it, sorry but I'm glad someone finally has the balls to speak out, the community needs to be cleansed for pro's that actually care about their fans and not just themselves(whitera)

[–]IdrALisK 21 points22 points ago

I've always known Desrow is a greedy money monger, ever since the DOTA incident. This is just more proof of how much of a piece of trash he is.

[–]CrashN 6 points7 points ago

Context??

[–]Spoungebob 10 points11 points ago

According to my good friend Nestea, "He puts the Hobo in Chobo".

[–]bro_ski 16 points17 points ago

There once was a boy named VTClones

He got DesRow on VT.

From there dRW went and spammed all KoTH channels and shit to get him in because he was on VT.

One late night dRw caused some mad drama on VT vent. Team Disband :(

VTClones has never been the same...

[–]FXOfrequency 17 points18 points ago

You mean Clonze?

[–]bro_ski 8 points9 points ago

more like Clon-ez!

[–]IBSC2 8 points9 points ago

Dislike his character or skills whatever, but the rest of you guys mocking someone for their physique is actually quite pathetic when I doubt the majority of you are in the top shape of your lives either.

[–]Jordonis 1 point2 points ago

yea true.. but I thought after moving to korea, desrow would lose weight, but it actually looks like he has gotten even bigger !

[–]PNALLUP 56 points57 points ago

French Canadians in general are a little bit... off.

[–]XxInvocationxX 13 points14 points ago

and they fast expand...ask IdrA about it...

[–]PreyMonkie 46 points47 points ago

can we stop giving desrow attention? i don't give a shit about some masters playingi bm'im people. he has like 200/300 people watching his stream. if those people like watching some fat dude watch sc2 let them.

just don't give him attention, that's all he wants anyway

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points ago

Brace yourselves, the fat jokes are coming.

[–]Tofuboy 218 points219 points ago

Weight for it...

[–]EffeCt701 24 points25 points ago*

you took a risk there Tofuboy. Well played.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

wp,wp.made me laugh

[–]knowone572[S] 58 points59 points ago

meh. his weight has nothing to do with it.

[–]starfox0_0 4 points5 points ago

I've noticed that you have been trying desperately to keep this thread in track and even trying to hold back a lot of the hate, you sure are a gentleman. Wish I could help ya more than an upvote.

[–]Joerc7 31 points32 points ago

He is crying on stream

[–]4TEHSWARM 13 points14 points ago

lol srsly?

[–]Joerc7 24 points25 points ago

Think so, was hard to tell as his fat head was so compressed, maybe it was just sweat dripping TT

[–]GalateaSC 2 points3 points ago

I didn't mind him at first. I enjoyed watching his stream. But after losing to TLO many, many months ago, I made a comment in his stream chat that was something along the lines of "hmm, shouldn't have done such and such I think." Subsequently, he chose to 10 minute rage ban me. Sure, I'm no pro, but I wasn't even really addressing him. I was chatting with the other observers. I just thought, well, whatever, if you don't want my pennies for watching your commercials, fine. Lost all respect, shut his stream off and haven't thought about him until now.

tldr; put down the pitchforks, you don't have to watch his stream, there are many others, i enjoy a fine peach cobbler

[–]RawrToTheSauce 29 points30 points ago

Didn't he steal money from his former team, too?

[–]Pembury 12 points13 points ago

Someone posted here a while back that he took a portion of his DOTA team's money in a tourney he didn't even play or something.

[–]reneg 15 points16 points ago*

http://nadota.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6627&start=20

Scroll down to TheAznSensation 's post. he explains everything.

Edit: I'm not sure if this is 100% verified, it just presents a point of view of some money that went away. I haven't seen any other firsthand accounts of the situation, so this is the only viewpoint i have.

[–]Korokodile 2 points3 points ago

I can confirm this.

[–]quadtard 13 points14 points ago

I used to watch his stream and mod his channel a while back before he went to Korea, and I have to say I agree with most of this. Also what he teaches people he coaches is common knowledge that can be gotten by any mid master level player who pays attention to pro games.

[–]DrollaUK 4 points5 points ago

I used to be a mod on his stream as well when he first streaming, and he un-modded me because i said the zerg who just beat him was pretty good. I watched his stream for 15 minutes a few months ago but the mixture of immaturity, douchebagness and generally acting horribly towards his viewers made me say to myself never to watch him again.

[–]Tman158 14 points15 points ago

Every stream I tune into lately is >50% chance that they are either not at their computer or not in a game. I tend to watch vods now so I can just skip to the games. I don't think this is a desrow specific problem.

[–]reneg 5 points6 points ago

reposting this since it got buried way way down, but Desrow allegedly stole some prize money from his Dota team:

http://nadota.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6627&start=20

Scroll down to TheAznSensation 's post. he explains everything.

This is just one guy's take on it, not sure if Desrow has any response or anything like that.

[–]Xenocider 1 point2 points ago

Drw is DesRow on those Forums

[–]m_darkTemplar 69 points70 points ago

Why is this on the front page of r/starcraft?...

[–]BUfels 142 points143 points ago

It's been too long since the last witchunt.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

This isn't really a witchunt, just a bunch of people saying the hate whats-his-face.

[–]Gracksploitation 18 points19 points ago

Follow-up question: who the fuck is desrow anyway? I think that's the guy who received bm for being obese? Never heard of him, no idea who's upvoting this.

[–]rj22497 1 point2 points ago

Your not missing out on anything

[–]DeadlyPremonitionGuy 1 point2 points ago

isn't it about a starcraft player? I'm pretty sure I saw something about incontrol possibly proposing to miss prosser yesterday.

Player's personal lives are often on the menu here.

[–]Riot949 18 points19 points ago

Desrow is the first name on my ignore list. He must have BMed the shit out of me during beta and I find it funny that he has any amount of fans considering hes a very mediocre player and an asshole

[–]xcile 5 points6 points ago

So I am no the only one hating him? thats a relief

[–]MantorokBeatsAll 8 points9 points ago

All I have to say regarding this matter is, Who?

[–]mrafaeldie12 11 points12 points ago

Oh reddit you never change...

[–]AndyC50 2 points3 points ago

well we better reset the weeks without a witch hunt meter

[–]tommywaaf 38 points39 points ago

Here is a conversation i had with DesRow

ME: Hey im looking for coaching and am a big fan, and was hoping you could help

DesRow: Get in Line.

ME: Well how long is the wait and what are your current prices.

DesRow: Well its about a month im pretty busy, but for $200 i can bump you up to tomorrow.

ME: Thats ridiculous, im not waiting a month or paying you an extra 200.

DeRow: Well then fuck off newb scrub

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points ago

I'm sure that story is not fabricated at all

[–]tommywaaf 4 points5 points ago

This REALLY happened!

[–]moltenlead 17 points18 points ago

Proof? I hope you understand my skepticism.

[–]FlippoManiacs 47 points48 points ago

Well, then just dont watch his stream.

[–]knowone572[S] 39 points40 points ago

I unfollowed him on twitch. I won't watch him anymore after today. I just wanted to let others know how I felt, and let them come to their own conclusions.

[–]guchmatic 6 points7 points ago

I honestly think that most, or atleast many of the popular streamers, don't realise that their chat is the same people as the ones watching and "giving them money".

[–]AndyOniyate 4 points5 points ago

The point of this post is much like a review, if you went to a restaurant and the manager acted like a complete douchebag, would you not tell your friends while it was fresh on your mind?

[–]lokiM45 15 points16 points ago

desrow is a moron, nothing new here

[–]Cookieking 5 points6 points ago

Guys guys guys, simple solution, just watch the boss-toss :D

(White-Ra)

[–]RatZMantoss 4 points5 points ago

one time i played desrow but he dropped. and i dont mean from the game, i mean he broke his chair and dropped to the floor. ez wins

[–]gogoGone 5 points6 points ago

If you know desrow from other games such as WC3 and Dota you would know hes known for being a complete asshole and honestly for not be good at any games. In all those games he wanted more than anything to be considered at the top or to even be relevant despite being anything but. Hes still a complete dick in SC2 but for some reason he actually has "fans" despite not even being close to the top.

Hes just your everyday ladder warrior when it comes down to it. BM, slightly better than average, and cocky for no reason. He should really be put into the group of deezer, combatex, and desrow personality wise.

[–]SiilentX 6 points7 points ago

let the reddit hate wagon roll once again....

[–]Deziire 3 points4 points ago

Well it has almost been a week without drama, there had to be something coming

[–]crumbledstone 18 points19 points ago

I've never been much of a fan of Desrow but you don't have to make a post about how much you hate him. No one is forcing you to watch his stream or support him. Let him be a douche if he wants to be.

[–]frugal_masturbater 13 points14 points ago

If nothing else, it's worth pointing out that he is featured. Other featured players have gotten removed from being featured who are arguably doing much, much more for their fans and the community.

So when a TL admin asks in a thread to advocate non-featured players, this is something worth bringing up.

[–]mannermule 4 points5 points ago

He's consistently been a dick and been kicked off of multiple teams due to his bad manner.. If he showed some god damn respect he's get some back.

[–]twelvefortyAM 1 point2 points ago

Sounds like Naniwa.

Oh, wait, reddit loves Naniwa.

Fucking stupid shit here.

[–]Vitekza 7 points8 points ago

he ended up refusing to play... and his opponent agreed

I don't remember anyone complaining When HuK did this on his stream against MC.

[–]CiantGunt 16 points17 points ago

desrow is an obese fuck face. hes got a bloated self entitled rank of how good he is at the game. and ive seen him play and he is shit. terrible player terrible personality 0/10 go on a diet.

[–]wzzle 1 point2 points ago

i read the thread title and thought: meh just one more "let's show x some love"-thread

than i clicked it and was like: shit just got real, grab your pitchfork

[–]CorgiApocalypse 1 point2 points ago

Wow, just hopped on the stream for a bit, 2 commercials in less than 2 minutes. What the fuck? I understand this thread has gotten him some more viewers, but still.

[–]morlakai 1 point2 points ago

Like artosis and the SOTG crew said, ladder ranking means nothing and isn't a measure of skill. I hate when people assume someone is good JUST because they are GM. My friend knows someone at his school who is 150th or something in GM, I guess he's a progamer now right?

[–]Chadlynx 1 point2 points ago

Why don't the people complaining about ad spam just use adblock?

[–]hater1000 1 point2 points ago

Knowone572! Bringin' the pitchfork sharpenin' drama allllllll the way BACK! THANK YOU!

[–]Loeder 1 point2 points ago

sad drama clowns

[–]Mobywan 1 point2 points ago

I once played Desrow on ladder and he 4gated me and won. I was slightly annoyed and left with saying lol 4gate. Afterwards he spammed me with LOL UMAD x100.

Anyhow, all in good sports. I think he has his moments, but he may consider cooling down a notch :)

[–]Larryx123 1 point2 points ago

funny how he BM unknown players and lick ass when he plays someone famous

[–]spineffect 1 point2 points ago

I've been preaching this for a while now fuck this guy and everything about him.

[–]haaaan[!] 1 point2 points ago

He is NOT one of the best, but you maybe were joking? The few times I've met him on ladder, i've fucking crushed him, and his MMR is really low right now.

[–]I_WANT_HIS_DILDO 1 point2 points ago

lol i trolled him once live and got banned now i feel better knowing that he really is a piece of cunt

[–]The_Hungry_Man 1 point2 points ago

This guy charged 400 an hour for coaching? Or even 40? Hahahah.. now that's funny.

[–]psybeam 6 points7 points ago

Then don't fucking watch his stream, geez.

[–]n1000 9 points10 points ago

This kind of pointless personal attack is always downvoted to hell...unless it's about Desrow.

[–]baconchef 3 points4 points ago

Just don't watch. Simple.

[–]jojoleb 8 points9 points ago

he has fans ??

[–]iambic9poetry 22 points23 points ago

Why the fuck is this post anywhere near the top of /r/starcraft? Trash content

[–]ghazi364 40 points41 points ago

People see a post. People agree. People upvote. It gets front of subreddit. It's not like we all think it's the most important thing but fuck we can't agree that this is bad behavior?

[–]Zerunai 28 points29 points ago

HOLD UP LET ME CUT A ZERG DECAL INTO THE SIDE OF MY CASE THAT WILL GIVE US SOME GREAT COMMONLY UPVOTED R/SC CONTENT

[–]DUCKVILLELOL 22 points23 points ago

Or post a pic of Dragon doing some stupid shit against gold players that is apparently impressive

[–]Ahtin 10 points11 points ago

You must be new to this subreddit.

[–]uhhrg 8 points9 points ago

r/sc has been slow lately..

[–]Aftershock912 4 points5 points ago

This sounds like a "witch hunt" -uncorroborated claim against another person's or organization's integrity, business practices-check

[–]ItzDp 4 points5 points ago

No one gives a shit who you don't like. The reason people are upvoting are due to the reddit hivemind having something against desrow. Stop posting stupid, pointless posts on this reddit. Go write a blog.

[–]loaded411 1 point2 points ago

A lot of the same reason I don't tune in to Destiny's stream.

[–]Spitmode 2 points3 points ago

pretty BMish guy, when i talked to him about coaching he said he wont coach Z because he quote "doesn't want this shit race to get any better".. LOL?