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[–]MatronStarcraft 33 points34 points ago

To be fair, the only person that thinks players casting is a bad idea is Slasher. Refuting a Slasher argument doesn't require all caps.

[–]Tengil2k 1 point2 points ago

No, but genuinely disliking the guy does...

[–]kpxkrappy1 0 points1 point ago*

Artosis also had a minor rage on SotG about player casting.

something about the time actually spent analyzing the game from the viewers perspective, rather than giving the player's. sure giving out strategies and responses that a player would or should do isn't something current casters have but for the large viewer base who's skill levels differ, the caster perspective is more understandable/exciting.

It was a very minirant by artosis on SotG after HSC3 responding to threads like this on reddit

[–]MatronStarcraft 1 point2 points ago

Artosis played while he was also casting, so I don't really know if he has a leg to stand on in that argument. He could argue that a player might not be as good of a caster for a variety of reasons, but he certainly can't argue that they shouldn't cast at all.

[–]kpxkrappy1 0 points1 point ago

I don't think he was saying that they shouldn't at all. i don't totally recall, but at the end of the discussion he ended settling with saying that it was fine once in a while, or for events such as HSC, but to prefer that over stage casting was wrong.

Again, this was in response to the mass amounts of reddit threads about HSC3, and I think about NASL too I believe.

I have nothing against player casting. When QXC casted code A, that was a great break of fresh air after moletrap and unstable

[–]learycm 2 points3 points ago

Honestly, if that is what he said he is probably right. The sweet spot is probably a nice mix of dedicated casters and player casters. There is always a reason you want people in a position doing it full time, they can dedicate themselves pretty much fully to being the best at that one thing rather than spreading themselves thin.

[–]Drabzalver -3 points-2 points ago

Sir, you win the thread.

I really wonder how this guy gets his own show while the entire community agrees that he doesn't know what he talks about in general.

[–]HappyVlane 0 points1 point ago

His show got cancelled so everything's fine.

[–]MatronStarcraft 0 points1 point ago

Because when he says things the community reacts this way. There are a lot of people in all forms of media that follow the same "say outrageous things to get attention" formula.

[–]Drabzalver -3 points-2 points ago

You win this thread again, god, why are you so smart?

[–]MatronStarcraft 0 points1 point ago

Reddit.

[–]Oizne 13 points14 points ago

Nightend top 3 voice!

[–]dreamgzer 44 points45 points ago

Nightend's voice is amazing, LOL.

[–]AiurChobo[S] 64 points65 points ago

Helium dracula

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

think this name gonna stick

[–]esportsetc 6 points7 points ago

Welcome to 6 months ago.

[–]dreamgzer 3 points4 points ago

no no no...no mawines.

[–]iPaintDeath 2 points3 points ago

I picture gollum with that voice:P grubby really needs to make him say 'my precious'

[–]ForeverAloneSC2 0 points1 point ago

MY PRECIOUS

[–]DarkReaver1337 0 points1 point ago

Upvoting for the hilarity

[–]Gr8namepicker 1 point2 points ago

I didn't really care for NightEnD before, but now I am his fan:)

[–]nucLeaRStarcraft 9 points10 points ago

Nightend really made my night.

[–]Tntnnbltn 4 points5 points ago

end.

[–]Snarfin 1 point2 points ago

I'm Oscar!

Dot com!

[–]GridLocks 3 points4 points ago

Grubby's casting was pretty damn good

[–]fumar 15 points16 points ago

FUCK SLASHER!

[–]Simpelol 10 points11 points ago

NightEnd to GOMTV casting!

[–]Darren1337 3 points4 points ago

Oh nightend, I never knew you <3

[–]stir_friday 5 points6 points ago

There's a place for professional casters, and there's a place for player casters. I think it works great for HSC, because it's already a pretty casual, laid-back event. For MLG or GSL, I'd much prefer to watch matches cast by Day9 or Tastosis.

[–]petershaw 1 point2 points ago

HasuObs also did a really good job casting, i'm impressed

[–]EdwardUong 3 points4 points ago

I honestly think InControl is a very good caster :) Since I first started watching him casting games in NASL season 1

[–]Holy__Check 3 points4 points ago

Helium Dracula

[–]Simpelol -2 points-1 points ago

Made me giggle :) nice one

[–]OidTimer 2 points3 points ago

where is the link?

[–]AiurChobo[S] -5 points-4 points ago

There is no link

[–]OidTimer 0 points1 point ago

im confused, did i miss something on hsc?

[–]Merlons 0 points1 point ago

Nono, it's just your standard no-context-gief-as-much-karma-to-me-as-possible -threads

[–]wzzle 1 point2 points ago

just fyi hasuobs is casting on stream2 right now, also an awesome caster imho

[–]StripeyEdge 0 points1 point ago

The headphones I realise must be really odd. It would be awesome to put up a silent disco - put some K-Pop on, some Rock, some crazy teen pop and watch everyone dance it out.

Then have players cast it.

[–]Deziire 1 point2 points ago

i love moman, he is awesome

[–]NDreader 0 points1 point ago

All casters are players? I kinda get what you mean, players participating casting.

[–]WallyFeed 0 points1 point ago

I think the OP is a way of bashing MLG's Slasher for having a different opinion.

[–]uw_NB 0 points1 point ago

there are so many good comments i cant upvote enough xD

[–]FlosFeetplz 0 points1 point ago

Yea its nice having casters that know something about the game for once.

[–]xsamas 1 point2 points ago

3 terrans (ClouD, Thorzain, Goody) casting a TvT right now. Pretty insightful stuff. Loved Grubby too - since WC3 :)

[–]haleystorm 0 points1 point ago

WHAT IS WHY

[–]Dan479 -3 points-2 points ago

This is hardly not the first time Nightend casts, I'm amazed by the amount of newcomers here.

[–]McKing 1 point2 points ago

When did he do that? I never heard his voice before and i watch all of gsl,mlg and couple other events. If i did not hear his voice before, it is not surprising to me at all, that there are many people who have not heard it before.

[–]Moriwo 5 points6 points ago

I remember he casted at the last HSC.

[–]Inoxovi 1 point2 points ago

He casted the first time on Homestory Cup III.

[–]staindk 1 point2 points ago

I liked Destiny the most. Still overpowering (could work on talking a little less) but actual good input, and a good voice, humour, clarity (more of it than the foreigners)...

DESTINY!

[–]aceman118 0 points1 point ago

I agree with this. He obviously isn't an experienced caster but none of them really seem as good as the full timers. He has good insight even in non-zerg races and is able to explain it clearly. Also, I don't think it was that he talked too much but he just didn't have that interaction we are used to seeing in casters - asking questions back and forth, etc. I would prefer good/clear insight over friendly banter anyway.

[–]staindk 0 points1 point ago

He was even being nice where he would end on a (literal) high note after each statement to not seem full of it - both to prompt the other casters but also to allow them to challenge a point

(I hate it when a caster states something and his partner has to confirm every freaking time that what he said was correct)

Screw downvotes.