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[–]mobyhead1 26 points27 points ago

Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers

Joe Haldeman's The Forever War

John Scalzi's Old Man's War

These books are (sort of) variations on the same theme as Ender's Game. And they're all good.

[–]kabdib 8 points9 points ago

John Steakley's Armor

Robert Charles Wilson's A Bridge of Years

[–]Gark32 5 points6 points ago

armor was surprisingly intense.

[–]arselus 4 points5 points ago

I believe Card mentioned that Armor was one of his inspirations. I also remember it being great.

[–]snkscore 3 points4 points ago

I read The Forever War after Enders Game. Great book! Read it next!

[–]Gark32 2 points3 points ago

Old man's war was excellent.

[–]kenlubin 0 points1 point ago

I'll chime in with more support for Old Man's War.

[–]amaxen 0 points1 point ago

Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan series - Start with Shards of Honor. Each book is a self-contained story so you're not committed to reading any more than the single book.

[–]FlaveC 9 points10 points ago

Dune is quite different from Ender's but I would definitely encourage you to read it. I would also discourage you from reading any more of Card's work -- he just had one great book in him. Also try Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. From there, just go down the many, many scifi lists out there.

[–]StrawberryStrudel 5 points6 points ago

dune is the answer

[–]crashorbit 2 points3 points ago

Card has lots of good Ideas. I've liked much of what I've read by him. But I do disagree with his politics and have a different way of looking at his writing after I understood that better.

[–]Aufbruch 1 point2 points ago

His politics render him a truly disgusting piece of human garbage.....I'm sorry. Ender's Game was ok...and that's about all I'm willing to give him, and that's to say nothing about the quality of his subsequent works, which, I Promise, I did give a fair day in court even after I learned about his....interesting opinions on what should be done about homosexuals.

[–]TheRealPariah 1 point2 points ago

This is silly. You can view his works without constantly including how much of a jack ass he is. The books are decent the first one was probably the best. I don't believe for a second you gave a fair reading of any of his subsequent books given that statement.

To the OP: The books are good, there are some other ones I would consider better in this thread. Protip: Don't read anything about Card until you are finished with whatever part of the series you wanted to read.

[–]ironyfree 1 point2 points ago

Protip, never read anything about any writer before reading what they wrote. If I had read about Cory Doctorow before reading his books I would have realized that that every protagonist is him. Information about the writer is like the Director Commentary in a DVD; great for fanboys, but in reality kinda takes the magic out of the work.

[–]kellhusofatrithau 2 points3 points ago

Foundation is definitely a good read, it's gets a little boring after a while though, stick with the first three, they are quick reads.

[–]FlaveC 3 points4 points ago

Despite what others would have you believe, there is only ONE Foundation Trilogy.

[–]crashorbit 1 point2 points ago

There are other books using the same setting. I think Asimov did a pretty good job of pulling the stories together in a responsible way. Having said that, The foundation books are a product of their time. There was not as much emphasis on literary craftsmanship when they were written.

[–]LawAndMortar 1 point2 points ago

Dune actually has a few similar elements, despite having a different tone. They're both stories that feature strange but familiar cultures. They're both stories about war, about isolation and relationships, and about a young man coming to terms with a powerful, predicted future. They both fit into a larger series of novels, neither of which is as good as the first book alone.

[–]ulbador 0 points1 point ago

I had troubles getting past book 4 or 5 in the Dune series.

[–]labrutued 8 points9 points ago

If you've never been into reading, then I should probably lay off recommending the super dense books like Red Mars that I always tell people to read.

Try Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein. It's a fun read--light and it'll totally convince you of human supremacy. Just so you know, it's nothing like the movie.

[–]kylco 2 points3 points ago

Awww. I wanted to recommend them too! And then take him down the path of Neal Stephenson fanboydom . . . cure him of that "big books are intimidating" thing. Eventually, you realize that a bigger book just means they last you longer.

[–]Mestitia[S] 2 points3 points ago

I'm still at the stage of being proud of reading any book, so the smaller the better so I can say I've read a bunch :P

[–]kenlubin 0 points1 point ago

At one point, I was burning through novels at about 500 pages /week, but now Neal Stephenson novels intimidate me. I still haven't read the Baroque Cycle or Anathem.

[–]kylco 1 point2 points ago

YOU MUST! Anathem is fantastic, I think it's his best (even beats Diamond Age!)

[–]kenlubin 0 points1 point ago

kk. I bought a copy a week ago, but work shifted into insanity mode. I'll start it soon.

[–]Mestitia[S] 0 points1 point ago

Ya it's probably best I ease my way into the heavier stuff. Thanks for the recommendation.

[–]anti_crastinator 0 points1 point ago

Red mars and its two sequels are by no means hard reading.

[–]dontbeajerk 6 points7 points ago

A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ. Favorite book.

[–]thinker99 7 points8 points ago

Hitchhiker's Guide series. Snow Crash and The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson.

[–]60secs 5 points6 points ago

Foundation series by Asimov.

[–]jroot 5 points6 points ago

Rendezvous with Rama

[–]davincih 7 points8 points ago

The Mote In God's Eye. One of the best sci-fi books ever written.

[–]ilogik 5 points6 points ago*

Hyperion (although, it's 4 books, might be a bit long for you?)

[–]Stick 5 points6 points ago

The Forever War

Ringworld

To Your Scattered Bodies Go

Earth Abides

Replay

The Cross-Time Engineer Series

[–]jabjoe 8 points9 points ago

Off the top of my head:

Larry Niven's "Protector" then "Ring World" series and pretty much any of the "known space" series.

William Gibson's Sprawl trilogy.

Harry Harrison's "The Stainless Steel Rat".

Alastair Reynolds's "Revelation Space" series.

Paolo Bacigalupi's "The Windup Girl"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago*

Vorkosigan Saga by Louis McMaster Bujold. You can get most of it for free legally from the publisher.

The universe is interesting and well fleshed out. Most characters that have more then one page or so dedicated to them are compelling in some way, not to mention one the most interesting and unconventional protagonists in sci-fi.

You owe it to yourself to read it.

[–]kmolleja 2 points3 points ago

Thanks for the link, I've heard a lot about this series and now I can check it out.

[–]davidjayhawk 8 points9 points ago

I recommend this visual guide to NPR's top 100 sci-fi and fantasy books. I used it to look for some things to round out my sci-fi reading recently and my first hit was Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End. A very good sci-fi classic that isn't too heavy for someone just getting into it.

[–]crashorbit 2 points3 points ago

Up vote for saying that Childhood's End is not heavy.

[–]insomniaclyric 3 points4 points ago

Hey, here you go.

For a shorter but awesome read, you should go with 'Neuromancer'.

[–]roberto_banana 2 points3 points ago

Spin, by Robert Charles Wilson.

[–]kobun253 8 points9 points ago

Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind

is the order for that series....then spinoffs:

Ender's Shadow
A War of Gifts
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant
Ender in Exile (Reveals plot elements of Shadow Puppets and Shadow of the Giant.)
Shadows in Flight (forthcoming)
Shadows Alive (forthcoming)

[–]drdoak9er 10 points11 points ago

No, not this. The rest of OSC's work does not hold up as well.

[–]jabjoe 10 points11 points ago

"Speaker for the Dead" and "Xenocide" fondly, but I was quite young (15?) when I read them.

[–]dysfunctionz 7 points8 points ago

Speaker for the Dead does...

[–]kobun253 2 points3 points ago

at least finish the original series.....the spinoffs are eh

[–]ilogik 5 points6 points ago

I really liked the Shadow series (although it has been a while since I've read them)

[–]McLargepants 0 points1 point ago

I read them all over my winter break, and I really enjoyed them. I didn't like them as much as Ender's Game, but what book series could hold up to that masterpiece?

[–]amaxen 0 points1 point ago

I thought Speaker was if anything an improvement over Ender. Xenocide was slightly less good than Ender. And the rest were eh.

[–]akakaze 0 points1 point ago

This. If you stop at Ender's Game, you're ducking out before the best part.

[–]kabdib 3 points4 points ago

Do not proceed past Speaker for the Dead.

Or actually . . . go ahead. You'll never read OSC again after finishing Xenocide.

[–]Aaiishhh 1 point2 points ago

I actually thought the same when I was younger, but re-read them all again recently. Now I'm liking Xenocide and Speaker for the Dead as much as Ender's Game. Completely different beast, but still just as smart

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

Exactly. I plowed thorugh those two and threw Xenocide across the room.

[–]Mestitia[S] 1 point2 points ago

I probably will read them, cause I loved Ender's Game so much, but at the moment I feel like something new. I feel like I've been missing out on a world of books and want to try to read a bunch of the must read classics. Any other recommendations?

[–]metabeing 3 points4 points ago

Ring World

[–]Ringo45 0 points1 point ago

Personally, I'd suggest reading them in chronological order to continue building up the Ender universe before jumping into Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind.

Purists always whine that the Shadow series isn't as good but they're enjoyable and if you're new to sci-fi allow you to build up to the later works which make significant leaps in time and are more dense.

[–]McLargepants 0 points1 point ago

Shadow series is barely sci fi (which is totally fine), but I really liked them. There were some bits that didn't sit well with me, but I really liked them just the same.

I'm currently reading through the Ender Series for the first time (I had previously read Ender's Game years ago) and I would totally recommend doing it in chronological order just as you said. Ender's Game, then the entire Shadow Series, then Ender in Exile (which is a quick read, ties up a few loose ends from the Shadow Series, but isn't entirely necessary if you want to skip) and then Speaker for the Dead, etc.

[–]kenlubin 0 points1 point ago

Classics?

  • Ringworld, by Larry Niven
  • A Fire Upon The Deep, by Vernor Vinge
  • Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson

Most of the good science fiction in the past decade has had to contend with Vinge in some way.

[–]oppan 1 point2 points ago

As a counterpoint, I thought all his books after Enders Game were rather poor and to be avoided.

Try Forever War or Dune, as mentioned in this thread.

[–]jackthornglas 2 points3 points ago

If you like short fiction, check out Gardner Dozois's Years Best Science Fiction anthologies. Actually, check out any of Gardner Dozois's SF anthologies; the man's a brilliant editor, in addition to being a fairly good writer himself. I think you'll find all kinds of stuff you like, and then you'll have a list of a dozen or more authors to pursue.

[–]_42_ 2 points3 points ago*

The Dark Tower series. The first book, The Gunslinger, is short and can stand on its own. Each book after it is much longer but increasingly awesome as well.

[–]mastertegm 2 points3 points ago

I'm reading Dune currently, starting Ender's Game next I strongly reccommend Dune. Not a ton of action so far, but a great story and SUPER in-depth setting. It's mostly politics, but still very exciting.

[–]Cubesoup 2 points3 points ago

Blindsight by Peter Watts.

[–]kenlubin 0 points1 point ago

I love Blindsight, but it's so dense and uncompromising that I'm afraid to recommend it to anyone except veteran science fiction fans and philosophers. There are some passages in that book which would seriously trip a reader up if they weren't accustomed to figuring things out from context.

[–]the_girl 2 points3 points ago

Orson Scott Card's the Worthing Saga was pretty badass.

[–]BorgDrone 2 points3 points ago

Charles Stross - Accelerando

Lighter reading: the honorverse series

[–]eria0tarka 3 points4 points ago

The forever war. Awesome book written by an vietnam veteran too.

[–]noupvotesplease 1 point2 points ago*

Not similar to Ender's Game, but I liked them just as much- The Stars My Destination and The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester.

Edit: forgot to capitalize Bester somehow.

[–]tkltangent 0 points1 point ago

Something a little different.

The Inverted World by Christopher Priest.

Strange book...

[–]jayurbzz 1 point2 points ago

Check our George RR Martin's short stories--a collection called a Song for Lya

[–]McLargepants 0 points1 point ago*

Definitely Dune, it may be the only Sci Fi novel to be better than Ender's Game. But also if you really liked Ender's Game, try the other Ender series novels, there are a ton of them, and they're all very good (although none of them are as good as Ender's Game). A lot of people will say to avoid OSC's works because he is an outspoken Mormon (some might say bigot), but I'd encourage you to take the art separate from the artist, whether or not you agree with his politics.

[–]Seclorum 1 point2 points ago

Dune is good, a classic, but I personally couldn't finish the whole series.

The Honor Harrington Series, Personal favorite. Plenty of space action and battle and alot of emphasis on people. One of my friends couldnt get through it because there is ALOT of meetings characters go through.

Pandora's Star. Lots of Action, lots of cerebral stuff.

[–]soup_sandwich 0 points1 point ago

Vurt by Jeff Noon. I don't see this one get mentioned very often, I read it a while back, it was amazing.

[–]pyro-genesis 0 points1 point ago

I'd definitely recommend A Hymn Before Battle by John Ringo. It's one of my absolute favourite series and it's free. The premise is that earth is contacted by friendly aliens and told "You're in the path of a war. All us friendly aliens are genetically incapable of fighting, but we've got some kick ass tech for you to use. So get building."

[–]nannal 0 points1 point ago

"genetically incapable of fighting" - so many questions.

[–]pyro-genesis 0 points1 point ago

Consider a race that's evolved to be mentally advanced but about as violent as a stoned rabbit. Or a race that has evolved to always hide or run, never fight. Stuff like that.

Also, (minor plot spoiler) spoiler

[–]Ben_Yankin 0 points1 point ago

you do know that enders game is just the first of series right?

[–]mistermordancy 0 points1 point ago

Man Plus - Frederik Pohl.

Flow my tears, the policeman said - PKD

Childhood's End - Arthur C. Clarke (his self-admitted/critically/fan acclaimed best work).

[–]Aufbruch 0 points1 point ago

Anything by Harlan Ellison, Kurt Vonnegut or Philip K. Dick (well almost anything by Dick). The point is that you read some Harlan Ellison.

Yeah I'm one of those guys from the anarchist liberal left of sci fi, and am neither a huge fan of Herbert or a fan of Mr. Scott Card....but it's important you at least look into these authors, trust me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaY98GTCYM Watch this and try not to be intrigued by the dude. : )

[–]TheRealPariah 0 points1 point ago

1 Vote for Starship Troopers and Asimov's Foundation series.

One book which I loved but I don't see much is Shade's Children by Garth Nix.

You probably won't see this, but I really hope you read it!

[–]Shiby92 1 point2 points ago

Oryx and Crake by Margret Atwood. Post-apocalyptic, genetic splicing gone wrong, crazy ass story that tugs at your heart strings. Favorite novel of all time :)

[–]mykerock 0 points1 point ago

this. favorite novel of all time.

[–]Brainfreeze10 -1 points0 points ago

Did you actually read the rest of the series or just Ender's Game? I would suggest Ender's Shadow if you have not read it.

[–]_Aardvark 0 points1 point ago

I know many will disagree, but I found the Foundation Trilogy ( the only ones I've read in the series) to be very, very dull. It picks up towards the end, but not enough to make the repetitive snooze-fest of the earlier parts worth it. If you're really into the sci-fi genre, it's worth reading for its significance, but for a quick "awesome" read - stay away.

[–]Typhun -1 points0 points ago

I know a lot of people are not fans of it, but you may like Speaker for the Dead. I liked that one just as much as I liked Ender's Game, and it is the followup. It is a lot less science fiction(it is still there), but it is more of a book that sparks thought.

[–]thejarvin 1 point2 points ago

"Gateway" and it's sequels by Frederick Pohl

Most of the books by Alastair Reynolds (Chasm City is a nice introduction). Avoid "Century Rain" by him, that one sucked.

Anything by Pete Hamilton. "Fallen Dragon" is a pretty good stand-alone novel.

I really enjoyed "Sewer, Gas and Electric" by Matt Ruff, but it's a pretty polarizing novel. Sort of a love it or hate it kind of thing.

"Hardwired" and "Voice of the Whirlwind" are very cool cyberpunk books by Walter John Williams.

The Gap series by Donaldson is wicked cool space opera. A little harsh at points, by well written and engaging.

[–]unitzer07 -1 points0 points ago

enders shadow

[–]SystemicPlural -3 points-2 points ago

I'm guessing you are quite young and so related to the main character and also liked the fairly straightforward narrative structure. That makes it difficult for me to recommend what you should read next, because most of the best science fiction is pretty convoluted.

I'm going to suggest Little Brother By Cory Doctorow and Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. Both are near future science fiction rather than space based, so they are different on that count. But both are self contained books that are fairly short and both have a main character who is young.

[–]alexgdorman 3 points4 points ago

I'm guessing you are quite young and so related to the main character and also liked the fairly straightforward narrative structure.

That's the most condescending thing I've read all day.

[–]Aufbruch 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, you might wanna review that whole flies/vinegar/honey conecpt a bit, there, dude.

I'm a scintillating trollish ass, myself, and that comes off as douchey even to me.