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[–]criswell 3 points4 points ago*

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Personally, I've been using HSBC and have been very pleased. I've been working remote contracts which require me to travel a lot and they have unique features that make it very helpful for me:

  • Because they are essentially virtual (I'm not even sure they have any physical branches anywhere), they have no ATMs. Because they have no ATMs, you can use ATMs anywhere and they will eat the ATM fees. I assume there are similar features with bank transfer fees and other associated fees.
  • They don't throw tantrums when cards associated with the accounts go unused for a bit, and then have flurries of activities in various states (which, I guess would be bad if the card was stolen, but is great when you travel a lot- which I do). It really bugs me when my day-to-day activities trigger fraud-detection routines and automatically shut down my cards, HSBC, by default, doesn't seem to do that.
  • IIRC, HSBC is actually HQ'd in London, and they have some other unique features that make international travel easier (similar to the ones I mentioned above).
  • Since they are largely virtual, their web interface is the primary way in which you interact with your account(s). So it has to be solid. I wouldn't say it's the best bank web interface I've ever used, but it certainly is among the better ones.

Now, I can't say if my personal experiences will translate to positive ones for an incorporated entity as I'm just using them as a personal bank. YMMV...

Also, politically, I don't know what their stance is on NN (or other issues we may be interested in in the future), so I don't know what problems lurk there.

Edit: Alright, I've checked Sunlight Lab's Influence Checker for HSBC to see what they may be contributing to to see if there's any issues there. Here's the top level results. Let me parse the data a bit more and then re-edit my post with more detail...

Edit 2: Okay, wow, that was a long reddit downtime... I posted this stuff in IRC a bit ago... I may be lazy and just copy-pasta in a new post rather than re-type it all: (see follow-up post)

[–]criswell 0 points1 point ago

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What follows is long post of copy-pasta from IRC on HSBC stuff from Sunlight Lab's Influence Checker (with links).

criswell | well, I used sunlight labs influence explorer to check
contributions of HSBC (since I used HSBC, and was pretty much recommending
them in my post) to see if they were contirbuting to anything that may be
contrary to what rpac/osdf is working towards

criswell | here's HSBC holdings
http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/hsbc-holdings/3c3f0a2212224ab38161e5c7abbb9fbe

criswell | here's HSBC NA
http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/hsbc-north-america/3044c6b18304406893f0f42985521078

criswell | I'm not sure that *I* personally like everything they are
contributing to... (in fact, I *really* don't like much of what they are
contributing to)

criswell | but in terms of NN conflicts, the closest thing I've found is
this, they've both donated money to the lobbying firm...

criswell | Dutko Worldwide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutko_Worldwide)

criswell | which has this nebulous claim of working towards
"telecommunications" goals... which puzzled me, and slightly worried me

criswell | *however*, I dug deeper, and found Dutko is associated with
Level 3

criswell | if you've forgot, Level 3 Communications is the company that
Comcast (and then AT&T) was trying to block, and was kind of a poster child
for NN a while ago

criswell | (story to refresh memories if anyone needs it
      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/level-3-communications-issues-statement-concerning-comcasts-actions-2010-11-29 )

criswell | so, indirectly, HSBC *may* actually be associated with a
lobbying firm on the side of NN... but there's still more deep diving to do

criswell | the problem is, Dutko is paid by *both* Level 3 *and* AT&T...
so they are getting it from both sides...
http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/dutko-group/56409f42d05d40589a2be6c6fcd0db34

criswell | so... anyway

@idiotic_idi | nothing like double dipping. nice work!

criswell | not sure any of this means anything

[–]citizen_k 2 points3 points ago

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Credit Union - there are thousands of them and while they usually restrict membership to (city, group, whatever) there are so many that you can certainly find at least who will take you. They largely didn't get into the crazy lending pyramid schemes, are more conservative lenders, and as a kicker, there is a national agreement between just about every credit union which lets you use the ATMs and facilities of other credit unions beside your own free of charge.

If you're serious about being anti-corporatist, you can't make deals with the beast itself.

[–]BCHarvey 6 points7 points ago

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lol you guys got incorporated sweeeeeeet

i think there are some nasty cables about boa next to be released by wikileaks so exclude them

citibank is super massive machine of pain so lets not give them our dollars

hsbc seems OK but what about a credit union of some sort instead? there are lots of big credit unions that can do everything a bank can but without all the pain and suffering of patronizing the evil financial giants.

my $.02. congrats rpac

[–]legenwaitforitdary[S] 2 points3 points ago

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A credit union would be wonderful, but are they only open to members of the military? Or can anyone use their services?

[–]biblianthropeOSDF Operations 1 point2 points ago

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I looked into forming a Credit Union earlier this year, and here are some quick notes from what I collected:

  • They operate under local charter, where local = state/county/city/company. This means they be fine for personal checking, but may not work great for interstate commerce. different states have different rules about chartering though, so what I found was applicable only to the state of WA.
  • They may require a deposit of at least $N be kept in a savings account at all times. This is usually a trivial amount, but it can also mean that the interest it's accruing will need to be accounted and reported for tax purposes. That means more work for you.

[–]tzaquiel 0 points1 point ago

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I second the use of a credit union. Most states/cities/counties have credit unions open to all residents to use.

[–]Xanl 0 points1 point ago

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A few years ago navy federal credit union opened their doors to everyone, I highly recommended them for personal banking, no clue about corporate accounting though.

[–]Johio 0 points1 point ago

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Membership requirements vary by credit union. Most require some sort of small, nominal deposit into an interest-bearing savings acct. to "buy" a share, which entitles you to open an account. If you close the account, you sell the "share" back. We're incorporated in MA, so we should be able to do something there. If we can't find a credit union, I would advise against BofA, and suggest either TD Bank, or HSBC.

edit: Also, I am pretty sure that you can join USAA if you volunteer at a VA hospital.

[–]endari 1 point2 points ago

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I heard there are some Cables in the Wikileaks that BofA might be involved with something...

I might avoid BofA

[–]Sloloem 0 points1 point ago

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Sovereign seems to be all over the place in MA. Just throwing the name into the fray...I have BoA and know nothing about Sovereign, just that I see it all the time since moving here.

[–]biblianthropeOSDF Operations 0 points1 point ago

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I've enjoyed my limited (personal savings account) dealings with ING. Was able to track down their commercial banking site, but it appears as though they are more of an international payment processor than a full-fledged commercial banking outfit. Anyone else have experience with them?

[edit] Also, happy reddit-birthday, Jay!

[–]WaterofLife 0 points1 point ago

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This is something that should be decided by the Finance person. Thats why he is the finance person...

My personal thought is that credit unions are not where you want to have your non-profit banking done, based on the requirements of credit unions and their limitations due to their size. Also, you'll need anyone to be able to become a member since board members/corporate officers change.

Also, the arguments against BoA are invalid. First, nothing has been released. Second, not going with a corporation because they did a mistake/did something wrong in the past is like moving out of the United States because a president committed an illegal act. Because of President Nixon, you should move. At least in the analogy I created there was evidence that a law was actually broken.

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[–]pardonmyfrantonOSDF President/Founder 0 points1 point ago

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Thanks so much for the offer--right now we've got Jay plugged into Treasurer, but within the next couple days we will finally have some better collaboration tools and that way we can absorb more of your help. As always, thanks.