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[–]Vsx[Badministrator] (NA) 476 points477 points ago

Press tab, mute everyone who is an asshole.

[–]Moebiuzz 443 points444 points ago

This should be in the tutorials

[–]ManaLeek 47 points48 points ago

Yeah, they could have a bot constantly insult you to prepare you for PvP games. Then, once you get to the game stats screen, a prompt should come up asking players to report the bot.

[–]zanzou 6 points7 points ago

This would actually be kinda awesome. Acknowledging the problem and showing people how to actively deal with it.

[–]OV5(NA) 2 points3 points ago

Hilarious. I would love this just for the lulz even. Unfortunately I would get even more fed up with Ryze bot and his nuke combo if he also harassed me in chat...which would then bring me to make greedy decisions fueled by hatred and result in more instagib by Ryze bot.

[–]AetherThought 62 points63 points ago

The ignore is mentioned in Battle Training (at the end), but I really think they should have had the narrator say an actual line or two in the game situation about ignoring players who are unfriendly.

[–]theswagbasedgod 57 points58 points ago

"Now Summoner, you will encounter various other summoners on your journey and some may be, well, hard to deal with. I suggest you get used to drowning out their sounds with the death of those who oppose you in combat"

[–]DocDresden 27 points28 points ago

Lee sin would be screwed, he can't see, and now he won't be able to see anyone.

[–]MattDPS 41 points42 points ago

What's worse is that he won't be able to see anyone.

[–]Nostalgia_Guy[W1re] (NA) 14 points15 points ago

Well it could be worse if he couldn't see anything!

[–]DissentingVoice 8 points9 points ago

I don't know, I think not being able to see is worse than not being able to see anyone OR anything.

[–]Tanee 22 points23 points ago

Brindness is no impairment against a smerry enemy.

[–]marrakoosh[marrakoosh] (EU-W) 4 points5 points ago

Oh. My. God.

Tesco will be selling jars of my tears for years.

[–]OzChaelz 5 points6 points ago

I agree. I just had a bad game, and got completely insulted for it. And I always completely forget about the ignore button, I dont know but if it was mentioned more I feel this would be a happier community.

[–]Yarumasi 21 points22 points ago

You can be banned for muting teammates. I am not joking. I have been reported for this and punished because, I in turn did not wish to speak with people being assholes, and that is "refusing to communicate with team". Seriously?

[–]schlachtelch 10 points11 points ago

write in the chat that you mute them because they are flaming etc. if the guys in the tribunal see this and the guy really flamed or spammed etc the will not punish you

[–]jbass357[Rednpuff] (NA) 9 points10 points ago

you got downvoted, but i believe this is a reportable offense. if it is taken seriously; that's another issue.

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[–]Soviet_Waffle[Kadzin] (NA) 5 points6 points ago

[–]Diminished_Second[Minor Fifth] (NA) 10 points11 points ago

I advise people of those far too frequently...

It's very sad that this has to be done. People need to exercise at least a small amount of restraint, otherwise they're just Reavers.... Gorram Reavers...

[–]Apolik[ApoliK] (NA) 9 points10 points ago*

I prefer to put no attention to the extra chit-chat, just the important info.

And then ignoring them after-game so I don't get queued again with them.

EDIT: Comments below broke my queue-innocence and now I'm sad. :<

[–]Chronoman 32 points33 points ago

Ignoring someone does not prevent you from getting queued up with them again. The system could be abused that way.

[–]fofifth 6 points7 points ago

There honestly should be some way to not be matched with that player again. I played a game with someone who called me a noob all game when finally someone on the team said "hes carrying us you idiot". We lost that game because of that player and another. Then next game I get paired with that same person this time playing tristana and I'm playing the same champion (malphite). I end the game as 9-2 and with the help of a few key players and myself (not with the help of that trist) we finally win.

If this wasn't a ranked match it wouldn't matter to me. But it really sucks when there are horrible players on your team in a ranked match and they get carried to a victory only to go up some elo and then bring others down in future games.

[–]USmellFunny[Bavanai] (EU-W) 15 points16 points ago

One time, a guy flamed me all game in a ranked match, we lost. Next match I got queued with him again, needless to say before the match even started there were so many insults and "it's gg this idiot is a noob played with him last game" that the team got highly demoralized from the start and didn't have any confidence in me because of said player's words. They then all proceeded to blame me for every misfortune in the game, and when they died and I wasn't close to be able to blame me, they'd tab and flame my items.

Moral of the story: idiocy is contagious.

[–]beckthegreat 0 points1 point ago*

I just played a 3 v. 3 game where I played shaco with poppy, and rammus, and they fed the enemy shaco a lot early on. I got killed once by an ashe, that had 1 kill and 1 assist after my death, my team then raged about that being game over. Then I was turret hugging because of a gank( team didnt call mia either) after Ashe weakened me and I got killed by shaco's double shiv poison. My team raged at me when I couldn't have done anything about it. Just after that my dumbass teammates walked right into an obvious gank. I tried to hurry up and save them but by the time I was anywhere close one had died and one was close to dead. I still joined the fight however( idk what I was thinking) and then my teammates raged even more at me not walking to suicide. After the game the individual scores were Poppy: 1/5/0 Me: 1/5/0 Rammus: 2/6/0 After we surrendered at 15 rammus raged at me for being a dumbass. Am I right that my team was bad and just wanted to take it out on me??? Ty for letting me rant either way :)

[–]purenitrogen[PureNitrogen] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

Reporting someone for "Unskilled Player" doesn't report to tribunal, it makes you less likely to see them in games by adjusting their normal Elo. This is from what I've read, I can't remember where, it was on the league forums.

[–]fofifth 4 points5 points ago

I don't think it does anything for ranked elo though.

[–]Milhouse_is_a_meme 3 points4 points ago

You forgot "get witty retort in right before muting"

Makes you feel better.

[–]Klowned 2 points3 points ago

Sort of like having 3 friends hold down your enemy while you pummel his face.

[–]ponchoandy[TheDoctorSmith] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

I mute people on a gamely basis.

[–]The_Eclectic_Stoic 2 points3 points ago

Lvl 30 here....we can mute by pressing tab? How is this done? Do you right click on someones name? I always knew about just /ignore ***. You learn something new everyday.

[–]baytor[gabrielknight] (EU-NE) 41 points42 points ago

I see a LOT of smurfs when I do tribunal cases and they are very often godawful, also a lot of self-referrals. It is a big shame and a potential loss of income for RIOT (scaring/disgusting away potential new players).

TBH I really don't understand this sort of attitude. OK, I get it, most of the LoL community are, sadly, playing to enlarge their e-peens, but come on, how pathetic of a person one has to be to insult a true newbie (say lvl up to 5) while having played hundreds of games.

[–]Therolyk[S] 34 points35 points ago

I think even up to level 15-20 you're going to see the player make a HUGE amount of newbie mistakes. A lot of people these days are staying in bot matches until 12-13, just because they level at the same pace as pvp, and it's often a less hostile environment where their mistakes aren't going to cost them a game.

[–]baytor[gabrielknight] (EU-NE) 53 points54 points ago

I've been lvl 30 for months and I still make LOTS of newbie mistakes.

[–]RielDealJr[RielDeal] (NA) 18 points19 points ago

Hell, HotshotGG and Saintvicious make newbie mistakes sometimes, everyone does. It is really easy to do if you are not paying super close attention to the game.

[–]jackryan4x 7 points8 points ago

Also new champs, or new roles, or even new builds... Lots of people at all levels are learning new aspects of the game... Which will lead to mistakes, then consider lag/ other computer issues it's amazing anyone is extremely good.

[–]lmnopqrs11 31 points32 points ago

15-20? Hell I didn't really learn about last hitting until level 26

[–]lolredditor 27 points28 points ago

Yeah, when I started I was pretty zealous and watched streams and stuff and learned all the tactics and minutia of the game.

My friends that introduced me that were already level 30 didn't have any idea on the details of the game. They couldn't last hit, zone, and at the time normals rarely had junglers. They got by with better than 50% win rate purely by ganking well and being aggressive in lane.

Now? Now level 1's get chewed out for not being able to get last hits, or for dying against someone who has played the game for years. They also get chewed out for not following a meta they haven't even heard of yet.

[–]rhythmguy 28 points29 points ago

Now? Now level 1's get chewed out for not being able to get last hits, or for dying against someone who has played the game for years. They also get chewed out for not following a meta they haven't even heard of yet.

Do you know why? It's because players get permabanned, create new accounts, and then you have ragers playing with new players.

A better solution? Keep them playing on their level 30 accounts, put them a low priority queue that they stay in until their reports drop below a certain % of their total games. Maybe keep them out of ranked during that time as well.

Bet you anything the results would be better.

[–]Kevoun 4 points5 points ago

I forget it has been literally years now the game has been out, it puts it in perspective that someone could play for two years and be smurfing with a total newcomer. When I do this I make an attempt to play characters I'm pretty foreign to and take it down a gear or two.

[–]izzyp[izzyp] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

I learned when I laned with my friend and he kept getting all of the gold.

[–]Wind789 1 point2 points ago

Ya I was playing with an Ez the other day who for the life of me refused to understand the concept of not pushing the lane to their turret, and then proceeded to blame me when we got ganked and I was unable to save him. After we got ganked for the 3rd time I said fuck it and just started roaming.

[–]DarkLordOfToast 2 points3 points ago

been level 30 for a long time here and i can honestly say that i remember all the stupid shit i used to do when i was first starting the game. buying multiple boots in the first few matches b4 my friend (who introduced me to it noticed) getting items that didn't make sense not last hitting ect.ect. if people had been complete dicks im pretty sure i would have waited a while b4 trying it again.

[–]jagslash 0 points1 point ago

ah yes, I remember the times of trying to stack multiple boots on teemo, getting haunting guise on everyone because I saw one dude kill lots of bots while having that item, and buying random elixirs and thinking I didn't have to drink them.

[–]fofifth 2 points3 points ago

Before I say anything lets make it clear that I'm not saying this justifies people's actions.

TBH I really don't understand this sort of attitude

I think the big part with people having this attitude is that this game relies on each team member every single second of the game. If you step away from this game for 30 seconds its like stepping away from COD for 5 minutes. If one player feeds (intentional or not) it has a HUGE impact on the game. There are no other games (outside of the MOBA genre) that are this team reliant - a single person on the team can cause you to lose the game.

With THAT being said, people should realize how important team morale is and how damaging that kind of behaviour is. In a 50 minute game, you could be down all your middle towers and have your middle inhib gone while the other team has all mid turrets; you could get into a team fight and ace their team and win the game but this sort of thing will never happen when your team mates destroy each other's morale.

[–]mawize 116 points117 points ago

yeah wanted to show the game to some friends and 2 of them will never play the game again because they got flamed so hard in their first couple games ... just sad

ITS A GAME - BE NICE

[–]hardythedrummer[hardythedrummer] (NA) 36 points37 points ago

This is why I won't even try to get my wife to play this game. She plays other games with me sometimes, but nah, I'm not gonna even bother. She'd be in tears after the first game. =/

[–]dustybizzle 3 points4 points ago

I play with my gf all the time, she's pretty used to verbal harassment though from me (not in a serious way at all, we just call each other the most vile shit ever jokingly. Weird, I know.)

But it still gets to me when people bash on her, the protective instincts tend to kick in.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

I'm still pretty traumatized by this one Kennen from level 19. Hesitate every time I press PLAY. It's like a mild PTSD.

[–]kpluto 3 points4 points ago

ya I've had one of these moments myself

now I always stick up for people being bullied :(

[–]drake0727 91 points92 points ago

I agree with OP, but unfortunately, we are the on the Internets, and anonymity=assholes.

[–]Erekai 25 points26 points ago

This really is the biggest problem imo. Well, in LoL's case, I think it's a combination problem of anonymity and free accounts. In all my experiences with games that are free-to-play, the community has just been trash in general. It's sad, really. I try to help someone if I see them struggling on one of my smurf accounts.

[–]mikeorswim 19 points20 points ago

I have a decent amount of experience (~8 years) of online gaming with both paid and free to play. The communities typically turn into what LoL is when they get a large player-base. It's not just F2P, it's the interwebz in general.

[–]Swurf 10 points11 points ago

Yeah, even payed games are this shit. I play many different subscription and free games and they're all the same.

[–]goqo[tu madre] (NA) 66 points67 points ago

They're the kids who get raged at in level 30 games for sucking, so they take it out on noobs. It really can't be helped.

[–]EatingSteak 15 points16 points ago

I actually find it quite amusing when I see someone that's like 4/10 complaining about how bad his team sucks.

[–]Sven2774 28 points29 points ago

To be fair, if you have two shitty team mates that feed, you could very well do badly yourself, regardless of skill.

[–]Pixelpaws[Shira Frozenmoon] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

Most of the time, though, this person is raging even though they have the most deaths by a considerable margin. When you're down 1/6 within 15 minutes because your support can't heal stupid...

[–]dptoferrors 1 point2 points ago

I actually played a game the other day with soraka and amumu bot and amumu was going "heal" in chat every few seconds like it's free and has no CD. He then complained whenever he died. Later, Teemo (our mid) was bot trying to gank or something and started doing the same thing. He died too and also started bitching at soraka.

I finally got fed up at this point and said "For the love of god, she can't heal stupid. Stop diving like she has a 100% heal and you won't get yourself killed."

It stopped after that. :>

[–]Pixelpaws[Shira Frozenmoon] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

In the game I was referencing in my earlier comment, Wukong was complaining that, as Janna, I wasn't healing him. No, I hadn't hit level 6 yet either.

[–]Mograne 7 points8 points ago

Or the ones that rage in level 30 games, get banned, get mad, make a smurf, then rage at the noobs.

[–]madSimon 16 points17 points ago

I'm pretty sure Manamune is a recommended shop item for GP.

[–]Therolyk[S] 11 points12 points ago

I think you're right, and I actually told him it's ok to build it while he's still learning the game (mana management isn't the easiest thing), especially because he doesn't have runes or masteries to help him out yet. I told him he will have to learn to play without it (and without summoner heal) someday, as he can beef up GP a bit more with some better item choices, but I don't see an issue with him building that at his level. All-in-all, it will help GP, just maybe not optimal.

[–]BretOne 4 points5 points ago

It is in the recommended shop item and it is fine for a new player to use it. On GP particularly, he can learn what is last hitting by using Parley(Q) (bonus gold=clearly defined incentive) and Manamune will feed him the mana he needs.

I learned to last hit with Veigar and Annie, both have clearly defined incentive to get the killing blow. The second step was to realize that pushing the lane is bad and I started last hitting with normal attacks.

[–]kingofcupcakes[kingofcupcakes] (NA) 11 points12 points ago

I find this a big problem not just in the LoL community, but just about any competitive online-based community. It's just people being assholes because they can. We all started from the bottom, but people forget this, and they verbally assault anyone they think is beneath them. I will never insult someone for being bad unless he also has an attitude problem, because I know I wouldn't want to be treated that way if I were in his shoes. These smurfers, like 90% of the community I'm sure, don't believe in the golden rule.

[–]ImGoingToMakeYouMad 26 points27 points ago

How I play a smurf account:

1: Turn music on.

2: Play game. Say glhf, and gg at the end.

3: Advise new players to mute anyone that's an asshole.

4: Never rage, never counter-rage, never insult, never feed a troll.

Easy as that.

[–]damit2hell 12 points13 points ago

sad part is, most smurfs are just sub 1200 level 30's that re-roll to think they are good, and are usually on the opposite side of the verbal thrashing when they play on their mains.

[–]Brokenhighman 8 points9 points ago

I had a very frustrating 10 loss streak and decided I wanted to make a smurf to cheer myself up(Yeah I was an asshole). Went into my first game with my best AP mid and just mopped the floor. About 10 minutes in the game go by and I realized that it was just about as fun as stomping beginner bots. Ended up screwing around and just trying to feed assists to my teammates and I haven't logged on the smurf since.

I really don't understand what the fun is in destroying people who have no idea what's going on. I tried it once and it was boring enough where I see no reason to ever do it, yet so many people just constantly spam games like that.

[–]SlothPuppet 20 points21 points ago

The thing with smurfs is it doesn't matter if you get banned, why do people smurf? To stomp newbies? No. Because it's faster reffering yourself 10 times than it is to farm 6300 IP, in addition you could also have bought a skin with the RP and you get 40 IP win boosts.

[–]AetherThought 1 point2 points ago

Sadly, that's exactly what I'm trying to do right now. Trying to get the last ones in and the RP quickly before the sale dies, but I'm only at 7/10 (after a couple months), so I doubt I'll make it.

But really, I'm just levelling up and account, so I only play the tutorial-->battle training--> coop vs. ai, because you get full exp for coop games from level 1-9. Usually faster than normals, too.

[–]azureknightgx[azureknightgx] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

the refferals.. stack like that.. they dont cross ip check for things of that nature?..

[–]Mag14 2 points3 points ago

nope, not currently at least. Probably one of the reasons why there are so many smurfs.

[–]zaza410 2 points3 points ago

I smurf so that I can play with my lower level friends and teach them.... I also smurf when I am drunk/high so I don't interfere with my real account too much. I think I'm 0-7 on my drunk account lol.

[–]Eskimofriend 11 points12 points ago

The worst type of smurf is the nidalee smurf... well done at hitting max range spears against people who arnt good enough yet to dodge it (especially the ones that come out the brush). Then they talk in chat about how good they are and how shit every1 else is in the game is. And of course they eventually end up losing the game, blame the team, say how he is just a smurf and doesnt care and his main is 1500 elo (wow so high) and point out his 30/10/0 score means he is the best.

I dont see the fun in destroying noobs as an AP/AD carry, so I either just be support for my friends (any champ will do) or play low tier/not even tier jungle (e.g. jungle bruiser ashe). Under lvl30 any build on any champ works as long as you dont feed because people truly dont have a clue how to play. Yeah, theres always some guy who thinks they know 'the meta' and that my pick is a troll pick, but they cheer up when I get them first blood. No runes ashe jungle 2 OP.

[–]SilverhawkPX45 4 points5 points ago

Now I feel bad for maining Nidalee :(

[–]ACmilangab[ganstaWTF] 18 points19 points ago

is very sad when you invite friends to the game and they say they suck just because in their first game they went 1/20/0... without knowing that the best of best started like that...

[–]ZigzaFan[ZeldaFan] (NA) 6 points7 points ago

Same here. I've had a few friends quit the game on me because they hate the community so much from their limited exposure to it. Get trashed by the extreme snowball bots, try pvp without me, get wrecked by smurfs. I can only duo queue so much and we still lose 1/3 games or so due to 5 man premades. Why anyone would do that with a smurf I don't know, but it's happened twice to me.

[–]jkalltheway 4 points5 points ago

On a slightly related note, you only meet up with 5man premades if you're in a 5 man premade. And it really does suck how volatile the community is. When I smurf I try my best to be as helpful and non inflammatory as possible. Although I'm not against counter trolling.

[–]ReflexMan 9 points10 points ago

I report every single one. In a level 30 game, someone making fun of someone else is super common, and unless they get extreme with it, not something I will report. Obviously, if they go too far, then report for harassment, but just normal complaints, "omg noob uninstall," so common it isn't worth reporting.

But in a low level game, absolutely. I don't smurf unless I am playing with a friend who is low level. Some people obviously smurf to beat up on new players to feel better about themselves. While that is kind of sad, it would be acceptable if that was the end of it. But whether they are on my team or the enemy team, the second I hear someone complain about a noob being bad, I remember their name and report them. It's unacceptable. You are voluntarily playing low level matches to boost your ego by beating up noobs, yet you are upset that your team also has noobs, and you are holding them to a ridiculous standard? Hell no.

[–]GoodGuyTrundle[Noxian General] (NA) 8 points9 points ago

I recently played a number of smurf games with a friend's friend who was trying the game out. She wasn't really that bad at all (she LOVES Annie btw) but she makes simple mistakes like misclicking a targeted skill or walking too close to use a skillshot. She died to a jungling Lee Sin (really now, you just have to jungle on a smurf to be an asshole about it?) and he said 'Get schooled scrub, uninstall now'. I was just having some fun on Volibear trying a pure dps build, but that really set me off. I instantly bought a Frozen Mallet with the money I had been saving up to keep the lane fair (I had obscene amounts of cs and only killed my opposing laner, who wasn't a smurf, when he actively tried to kill me, then explained to him what he did wrong in the fight) and just hunted the guy in his jungle after timing his buffs. After killing him 2-3 times at his buffs he ragequit saying 'gg scrub team can't help me with fed Voli. Omg noobs uninstall'.

I am still appalled at this guy's lack of any form of self-respect and can only wish him good luck with whatever's going on in his life to make him this angry.

[–]Anomaly10[TheAnomaly] (NA) 7 points8 points ago

My favorite thing of all time is people asking for 1v1s because they get trashed when I hop on my smurf to play with new friends. I usually say no unless they're being incredibly obnoxious, at which point I go ahead and show people why trashtalking in low level games doesn't make you good at the game.

[–]fleetze 25 points26 points ago

That, and asking for 1v1's in a MOBA is like asking for a 1v1 in Football.

[–]CharlieDOliver[CharlieDOliver] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

And its always newbie-stomping champs like Tryndamere and Yi. They right-click to hypercarry level because CC-ing them isn't too obvious at low levels, spam 'lol noob' every time they get a kill, and shit like 'lol needed ult' or '4v1 noobs' when they die.

[–]Mecxs 8 points9 points ago

Why limit this message to smurfs?

[–]azureknightgx[azureknightgx] (NA) 8 points9 points ago

because level 30s who smurf think they are entailed to bitch for no reason at everyone

[–]Freakcheef[Freakcheef232] (EU-W) 3 points4 points ago

After the server split in EU I had to level a smurf on East because some of my friends play there, the majority of them is on West though. I leveled 1-20 only playing Coop vs. AI to not be a dick and stomp people who never touched the game. I dont understand people who play normals on smurfs, you can level just as quick by playing Botgames (even faster since you wont lose a single game) and noone gets hurt.

[–]kranu 2 points3 points ago

That's what some people do. But there are many others who create smurfs because they WANT to stomp noobs all day.

[–]Elkram[elkram] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

I have a smurf and know I would do this, but I've pretty much trained myself to keep all my insults to myself. Even when I'm on skype, I'll say maybe a sentence or two to my friends about how we could have gotten a kill and then I'll be done. The only people I insult are people on the enemy team who insults me first. You want to be a smug punk-ass bitch saying look at me, I'm going to knock down your fucking ego to the ground both in game and in chat.

...

Ok I might have gone over the top in that last sentence.

[–]Ceigee 4 points5 points ago

But how do they know that the only reason our team is losing is because of their inability to play better than a drunk man? How can I emphasize my superior abilities in comparison to theirs? How can I point out on the /all chat that I am the I in tIm. :(

[–]shiftybr 2 points3 points ago*

This is the exactly same reason I never learned to play Dota. I tried to 3 years ago, but that thing became a game where only experienced players play nowadays. So if you buy 1 item wrong, or fucks up a little because you didn't know the enemy's hero abilities, you not only get flamed, but people actually quit the game. Yeah I'm late to the party, but FFS, LET ME LEARN!

It's a good thing LoL has this Lvl thingy, so newbies will be paired with newbies, and can learn the game playing with others who intend to do the same. But as OP said... If you are playing smurf... don't fucking ruin the system. You're lvl 1? Who the fuck cares if you have a 1900 elo account. You're playing with newbies, so you either help them learn, or just shut the fuck up.

[–]fofifth 3 points4 points ago

I love hopping on my low level alternate account which was level 4 until after the one match I played. In that match was a vlad with the legendary skin and he finished 2-9 whilst calling my team mates all noobs. At the end of the game I checked his profile and he was level 9. A level 9 who got matched against a bunch of level ~4's and calling them noobs while finishing with that score. GG.

[–]david531990 0 points1 point ago

usually who is doing worse is the one complaining. first time I played on my smurf was today actually, I ended up 35/4 with GP. The guy who was 2/10 was calling everyone a noob and shit (we had a DC from the beginning BTW). We almost win, we had that but nobody followed me to kill them all :(. Anyway, he was raging and raging and he was the worst player in that game. the other guys were like 5/5 or 3/4 shit like that.

And to crown his performance he said: "hey GP you and me should ditch this noobs and play together all games"... I like playing with new people, but with that attitude, forget it.

[–]Izuuld 6 points7 points ago

Anger is often the result of self hatred, TL/DR ragers are often the least contributing members on any given team.

[–]TheDreadGazeebo 26 points27 points ago

I don't think that acronym means what you think it means.

[–]TBOJ 15 points16 points ago

Hi there. TLDR SALUTATIONS ALL MY FELLOW HUMANS

[–]daftroses 1 point2 points ago

I'm the guy that tells friendly newbies they can add my main account.

[–]DarkAncelot 0 points1 point ago

It's better this way, once you reach lvl 30 and start playing ranked, guess what? yes, everybody keeps flaming, insulting, etc.

[–]tomch27 2 points3 points ago

i actually love new players when playing on a smurf...i hate having to try hard at level 5.

[–]aquadrake 2 points3 points ago

I like what Dota 2 has done in their latest patch. Right when creeps spawn, they put a notice that says to reward good play or to punish meanies after the game. I normally forget to punish, but I often reward people for actively doing what their supposed to do. (supports buying wards, gankers roaming and calling out runes, etc.) I really think LoL should do the same. Only question is ... how to reward people?

[–]Darkstrategy 0 points1 point ago

It happens, either grow a thicker skin, don't pvp, or use the ignore function. Honestly anyone that starts shit talking a lowbie for being bad on a smurf acct probably sucks anyway and is trying to boost their own ego in low lv play.

What I do find hilarious, though, is when complete and utter noobs start trash talking about the most ridiculous things. Like the fed master yi saying I'm a pussy for backing out of a 1v1 when i'm playing alistar. When that happens I just laugh my ass off and say "When you get to lv 30, think back to this moment, because you're going to feel pretty stupid."

[–]oWatchdog 2 points3 points ago

Seriously though, if you're playing on a smurf account, expect new players. They will make mistakes (as will you, I'm sure). Don't hate.

[–]Hejjihoggu 1 point2 points ago

I actually make a point of teaching people to play when I do play on my smurf, I feel like its my bit of community service for the few times I do rage. I'm thinking of keeping track and for every game I rage (probably about 1/10 or less) I will have to do a community service game helping new players learn.

[–]aniviasrevenge 2 points3 points ago

I'm always silent on my smurfs unless I'm calling for baron or dragon. That being said, I think Riot does a good job of keeping smurfers together with smurfers (I think if you skip tutorial you get put on Smurf Island, for ex.)

[–]infested999[infested999] (NA) 4 points5 points ago

Wouldn't most smurfs do tutorial though, for the extra ip and xp?

[–]Rylor[Rylorisbored] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

Yes, if you're smurfing just for referrals, which is what I think most do. Although I do bot games only now, 20 min games instead of 40, and I can go AD anivia and still go 25/0. Killing new players over and over and pretending I'm good isn't what I aim for and I don't understand what people get out of it. :\

[–]Ericomgz[Omgz] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

I know pro players smurf etc. But I always assume the asshole smurfers are the ones who can't hack it in ranked, higher level games etc. I just tell that to whatever friend I'm with and that they should /ignore and it seems to work fine.

[–]b0ltzz[b0ltzz] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

The ultimate problem with a free game where the amount of accounts you can create is unlimited. People get frustrated at their inability to raise their level of play, and feel the need to take their mediocre skills into low level games and insult everyone around them and brag about how amazing they are. The best thing to do is put these people on ignore, report them, and hope one day they realize how miserable their own lives have become and just quit the game.

[–]Reilly149 1 point2 points ago

when Im on my smurf (which is an extreme rarity), I go with lead by example approach. I rarely talk unless its an absolute necessity to agree with someone over a play decision (ie: them-Baron Guys!!!! Me-no bad time, extremely dangerous, heres why)

[–]Chaipod 0 points1 point ago

I stopped playing with new players on my smurf after 5 games ... The match making system only puts me up against other smurfs now making it essentially a 30s game with no runes or masteries >.> However, when I did play with new players I was too busy having fun to complain about Ashe's deathcap.

[–]heyboyhey[Mollingmo] (EU-W) 1 point2 points ago

I have low level account for when I go on the other servers and every time I am reminded of how bad it can be pre lvl 20. First of all matchmaking is a mess, grouping you with players way out of your skill range, both up and down. Second of all people don't give a shit if their smurfs are banned so they act way worse than on their main accounts. Awful!

[–]Heartz 0 points1 point ago

When i'm playing on my smurf, i don't even bother writing anything because it seems like they don't even understand the game and it would take ages to explain them properly. Only problem is that those ppl will insult you for not doing retarded things with them.

[–]Shovelspoon 1 point2 points ago

It's just the butthurt banned players who want to inflict their own misery upon new players, until their account becomes unbanned. It really is a shame that Riot can't do much about this.

[–]nitsogop 0 points1 point ago

I totally agree. I remember when I first started about a year ago, it was first very hard to play because everyone had a smurf and got to play level fours and second off I just got insulted for not knowing how to play when I really didn't know how. I think this all lends back to the fact that the LOL community needs to realize that there are people on the other sides of champions and they too want to enjoy the game and win and being a bad sport will not help either of those goals.

[–]ibanezninja 0 points1 point ago

yes it is

[–]dudester567 0 points1 point ago

:/ I don't have a smurf account, my account is just low level. I often get comments remarking " ~ IS NOOB! ~ MADE US LOSE TOP!"

But I said I can't solo top!! -_-

[–]david531990 2 points3 points ago

Haha I played a game and I said this: I can't jungle at all. My teammates understood this: We win if I jungle. I was the last pick so they forced me to do it. I obviously had a terrible game and still got the typical: OMG you noob rant rant rant uninstall rant rant rant I have sand in my vagina rant rant rant. Also in low level games I never had a jungler. At all. I guess I was unlucky/lucky enough haha.

PS I have a smurf I just started playing with, IGN TheFallenAngel53 (I was being a drama queen when I made it apparently) in case you want to play some games.

[–]tg989[Firaxai] 1 point2 points ago

As far as I've seen with my smurfs - after 5-10 games you are in a match with all smurfs because of your hidden elo system. You'll get the occasional newbie who queues with a smurf friend, but its mostly smurfs. You can tell when they have names like "asheinurface" and hit a frozen arrow from across the map at summoner level 5.

[–]Richie311[Naughtlol] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

This is a big reason why I think there should be a no tolerance policy for harassment/flaming/trolling or just in general douchebaggery for accounts under level 20 or so.

If someone is reported enough to go to tribunal and is banned, they should just delete the account and make them start over if it's under level 20 or so. Maybe having to re-level the account will make them think twice about trolling.

[–]Arachnut 0 points1 point ago

Lately in Tribunal im seeing a lot of players saying "lol noob dis isnt my main account i beat u 1v1 on my main". However im suspicious if they actually have a 'better' account, or bullshitting to make themselves look better.

[–]Flapjack_ 0 points1 point ago

My first smurf account match with some friends who were legitimately new to the game I played Swain and would go CAWCAWCAWCAWCAW in all chat right before or after I did my ult, which at that level of play usually resulted in a kill or two.

I felt bad about it afterward.

[–]Blistful 0 points1 point ago

I never understood the bragging part. You have a "high elo" account and shit, but you're smurfing? I tend to think that 1. you dont 2. you suck at the "high elo to avoid facing those people"

[–]Im_not_Rammus 0 points1 point ago

It took me over a year to level my account to 30 because I maybe played a game or 2 a day, maybe not even daily. The people are just awful and can make the game not fun to play.Only reason I ever play is if my friend asks me too, I don't dare play with 4 randoms.

[–]Fbizzle[Fbizzle] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

I applaud you and I always try to help new players when I smurf, but I do see a lot of assholes and know exactly what you're talking about

[–]mrsmoonp13 1 point2 points ago

I am new to the game. This happens to me daily.

[–]Drewcula 0 points1 point ago

I just play Co-ops on my smurf so I can go do ranked!

[–]awkwardloveyous 0 points1 point ago

sometimes helping sounds like being an asshole, just because the tone that you say it doesn;t come across.

[–]47h315m[psychoholicx] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

It IS a free2play TEAMGAME. You shouldn't ever go in and mute everybody because it will your teams ability to win the game.

But the Free2Play part makes it a game where anybody can come in and insult you. There isn't a lot you can do about it unless you ignore them. Posts like this are the only way you can really fight this, appeal to the community. It will make the trolls stand out even more and it's easier to report them and get them banned (even if only temporarily)

[–]L0que[Loque87] (NA) -1 points0 points ago

I feed. I say "Insult the new player one more time, and I'll start running mid. Is this OK with you New Player?"

I've never had one say "no"

[–]joeeb22 1 point2 points ago

Ppl get big egos over the internet im waiting on science to give the sock'em through the screen option. Till then all we can do is try to set good examples.

[–]Igno4 0 points1 point ago

I don't insult new players. I get mad at people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results...

[–]darcartisan 0 points1 point ago

I saw the same thing when I went down with my friend. I went something like 35/1, but the other team spammed all chat about how everyone on their team was bad although no one was playing particularly well, even their 3 smurfs (what level 2 players buy legendary skins..?) It's funny to watch, but a sad fact of the game

[–]williamwzl -1 points0 points ago

Unless you are 9 years old or have never played a player vs player game you will be able to ignore and shut out the assholes. People are accustomed to internet badasses and they trash talk everywhere. Yes it's nice to have a nice friendly community but in the end there will always be people like this and honestly I think it's been blown up to be a much bigger problem than it is.

[–]LigerZ0 0 points1 point ago

To be fair, your wow friends probably made fun of bad players on there. Its a two way street.

[–]linedpaper92 0 points1 point ago

whenever I play on my smurf I try to be helpful to players, even on the enemy team in the hopes that in the future they aren't douchey trolls when they're level 30 and on my team

[–]Aameul 1 point2 points ago

I never understood the mentality behind insulting your teammates. "hey they are doing bad, lets make them feel/do worse by insulting them." NOT one time has this EVER helped. 1) It's just a game. 2) Not everybody is going to be amazing every time. Just play to have fun and if you can't do that then go on to something else.

[–]mappyflappy 1 point2 points ago

My favorite moment on my smurf was a guy claiming to have a 1700 elo account complaining becuz I only built mana items on ryze instead of ap and then deciding to type in all chat "retarded ryze has no ap wtf is wrong with this retard" O.o For the next 20 minutes my team and the other team got to sit and make fun of the guy till he ragequits :P totally worth the loss. I won't normally be a dick in games to teammates but ragers just anger me. The LoL community Is constantly getting worse especially in the north American server.

[–]papasmurf255[papasmurf255] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

Yeah? Well smurf you too.

[–]fearthewhale 1 point2 points ago

This, among just the general attitude of the league of legends community has made me not really enjoy playing anymore.

It sucks that the majority of the people playing are complete douchebags all the time.

[–]YoureLateToTheParty 0 points1 point ago

Ignore them, and move on. Have one smurf character I play on if I'm too drunk or high to be an asset to high level teams and I shit you not it was me and 1 other guy vs 3 of them. 5 leavers total. Of course I thought it was hilarious but what the fuck guys. Seriously.

[–]HITAN[HITAN] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

I will never in my life understand why people do this. I really won't. I can knda see why people make smurf accounts. You aren't doing too well in ranked, and you need to blow off some steam. I get that.

But if you are doing so good, you should be happy....so then where is all that malice coming from?

[–]nRRe 1 point2 points ago

I give advice when playing on smurfs, actually in process of leveling an Alt to 30, for no real reason...just because I guess. And i try to give other playeres advice. but you can't help a 4/21/3 Yi who only has Zerkers and Guardian Angel at 40 minutes =P

[–]altx 0 points1 point ago

I dunno... I find that a lot of low level players and/or new players are pretty bad mannered anyway. It's like its a different world down there.

[–]Incizions 0 points1 point ago

Amen

[–]Radiancelol 0 points1 point ago

If you've reached lvl 30 on your main, you've must have realized by now that it isn't just smurfs that rage at players.... There are usually 1-2 in every game.

[–]Frostatine[frostatine] 1 point2 points ago

Manamune is in the recommended build for GP. I find it funny that no one really builds it anymore, something riot should have noticed by now.

Oh well, there are infinite ways to find blame in LoL just as there are infinite ways to find victory. Be upbeat :D

Its just a game.

[–]darkplumb90 1 point2 points ago

Thing called the mute feature, you should learn to use it.
And even better, the report button.

[–]thewasko 0 points1 point ago

I'm pretty new, and this just happened to me in a 3v3 where someone said he was using a smurf. I misunderstood how they wanted me to gank in the beginning of the game and I was insulted the rest of the game, even though I ended up with a better score than them. Really made me want to intentionally feed though, it's super annoying.

[–]Drewu271 1 point2 points ago

"Hey what char did you wanna play?" "Nidalee top please." Bans Nidalee :(

[–]delebird 1 point2 points ago

Whether I play my smurf or my main, I try to teach anyone the basics of LoL, whether they're my ally or my enemy.

[–]MypipesnameisGandalf[Darkmagikk] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

I've been having the same problem while teaching my brother to play.

[–]AnimusNZ 0 points1 point ago

Also, getting slaughtered every game when just starting out due to 9/10 new accounts being smurfs isn't a fun way to learn at all. i think this really hinders new players experiences, thank god for co-op but still i wonder how many people are turned away due to bad experiences in pvp

[–]spases 1 point2 points ago

couldn't have said it better myself. we were all there at one point, be the good guy greg that helps new players get better. this game has a relatively high learning curve, putting people on the right track goes towards reducing the time required to learn the basics.

it's ridiculous if people need to beat up new players on their smurfs because they can't fight people in their skill range... come on, be classy.

[–]rogeris[rogeris] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

But what happens when the low level guys bitch at me while I'm smurfing saying I should be playing better b/c I'm lvl 30.

Bitch, if I wanted to play seriously, I'd be on my main account playing one of my main toons, not practicing some new hero that's free this week! /rant

[–]Cersia[Cersia] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

The way people treat each other is the same no matter what level you're at. People will call their teammates noobs regardless of whether or not they're actually new, and people will always say they're better than everyone else on the team.

Whether you're on a low account getting told you're bad by smurfs, or you're on a 30 account getting told you're bad by 30s. It's all the same, and honestly, I don't believe that these posts will ever change that. If it did, then this post wouldn't exist because it's been said countless times before this.

Good on you for trying, but the day people stop flaming each other will be the day pigs grow wings and fly.

[–]Imarvine[NO hugz for you] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

When Im on my smurf I get the new players on my team and all the enemies are smurfs...

[–]Rooskimus 0 points1 point ago

Had the same thing happen with a friend of mine. He even prefaced the match with "I'm still learning, guys, so I'll probably make some noob mistakes" then faced constant ridicule.

[–]groteklotzaak 1 point2 points ago

I played a game the other day where someone on my team told us in queue that he "was going to troll if there were any Asians on the team". I'm not Asian, but I didn't feel that I needed to tell him what race I was because I wasn't going to play the game giving into idle threats. Lo and behold, he throws the game, telling positioning to the other team, feeding on purpose, and trolling the players on our team who are trying.

That sucks, but the biggest thing that pissed me off was he was saying "it doesn't matter - I'm on my smurf". I was pissed beyond belief! I remember what it was like when I was first starting to play (I was on my smurf also for this game) and I kept trying to help everyone on my team out, but OP just ruined it for several people.

The worst part? I e-mailed Riot and asked if they could do anything in particular with players who troll behind the safety of their smurf account and they told me they didn't reveal that information. I don't want to know what happened exactly, I just want to know that the people who potentially stopped playing because of that bad game was made up for somehow by Riot.

[–]BlindKitty 0 points1 point ago

Tis why i play coop vs ai. You can actually teach people

[–]MTRsport 0 points1 point ago

Heimerdinger is awesome though! Those guys are the noobs!

[–]japandr0id 1 point2 points ago

http://oi40.tinypic.com/ra6tdl.jpg

This is usually me after playing a game on a smurf.

[–]Dopebear 0 points1 point ago

You don't get it. When we do offer advice everybody shit talks you.

[–]Pinky01 0 points1 point ago

I have played many games where "team mates" have insulted their team. I have actually even left one game. People need to realize that its just a game and nto get so pissed off. Sometimes you are learning new characters or are just having a bad game. Some players really shouldnt be playing in a team game like LOL if they cant be supportive

[–]Zimoria 1 point2 points ago

This kind of behavior made me take a break from the game for months. I got tired of having to type /ignore every game. I rarely pug still because of this.

Think of it from the newbies point of view, you're having a blast in this cool new game you found. It's crazy and unpredictable(at that point, assuming they've never played anything like LoL or HoN), which makes it so exciting. You feel like you could play it all day it's so much fun.

Then some smurf comes along and sticks his metaphorical dick in your metaphorical birthday cake. "Stop feeding, fucking noob.""wtf are you building?""stop being bad." WOW that is just so helpful! Please reprimand me more with no explanation of what I'm doing wrong! /sarcasm

I would not have minded being told to be more cautious or even being yelled at with at least some kind of explanation. At least I'd know what I could do then and there to fix it. It makes the game feel so shitty, because you start to feel like everyone is going to default to being an asshole in chat.

Yes, I know there's an ignore function but that still doesn't justify insulting new players or players in general. There's a human being on the other side of that screen, you don't know if they're going through a hellish point in their lives and this game is how they get away from it all.

People need to get the fact that there are HUMAN BEINGS, with feelings(most of them at least). No matter how cognitively incompetent or outright idiotic they may seem, that doesn't make abusing them okay. However if they're your friends and like to joke around like that with you, that's okay.

Jeez I went on a bit of a touchy-feely rant didn't I? I get pissed off at my friends when they give the only pug a hard time.

TL;DR: don't be a dick. L2Empathy.<-- This game would be so much more fun if we did more of this.

[–]waichi[WeiZhi] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

I only insult the other smurfs that shyt talk.

[–]HamsterSlave 0 points1 point ago

smurfs on our team just constantly insulting him and bragging about how they're so much better than him.

People with bad confidence bash other people for not doing good. I myself just think its pathetic if someone start flaming.

Sure its nice when someone actually has something to say about someones play, that just might help it improve, but just bashing for the sake of it makes me sad for that person.

And also, there are way to young and immature people playing this game...and that will not change unless all the parents in the world learns to raise there kids to not be fucking douchebags.

[–]kpluto 0 points1 point ago

the only people that I actually want to yell at are the afk's, trolls, and obviously (very obviously) not helpful teammates.

Other than that, I stick up for those guys.

People are usually alll nice in the beginning, then they become enraged if we start losing e_e

[–]Ooitastic 0 points1 point ago

I have friends who have quit because of smurfs yelling at them... I can't emphasize how much a little insult does.

[–]danhakimi 0 points1 point ago

Can we still troll them?

Can I still get to level 5 playing only AP Carry Soraka? I take her solo bot now and then, because my teammates don't get how lanes work.

[–]duckstaped 0 points1 point ago

It's really hard to convince new players that the LoL community isnt all that bad when this kind of stuff happens in all the lowbie games

[–]Kaoculus[Kaoculus] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

best one is where every player pretends like they are playing on a smurf.

apparently everyone has a 1700 elo smurf. when i was at that elo, everyone always said "i'm a smurf i'm actually 2k let me do whatever i want you guys are bad and shouldn't talk to me." >_>

[–]SovietK 0 points1 point ago

This. Its funny how people can make an account, start playing and in their very first game of all time get blamed for not understanding the game.

[–]koonkoon 0 points1 point ago

Maybe some people get bored to the logic on win one/lose one. Or they are on losing streak and need some ego boost.

[–]vodkamutini 0 points1 point ago

i don't see why this should apply to just smurfs

why is it acceptable to endlessly berate anyone just because they're playing poorly or you don't agree with their build choices?

[–]blueandshort 0 points1 point ago

i agree with you played on a smurf to lvl up a couple of lvls whilest waithíng for my friend and this one game i got into a full smurf team (this was 3v3 so not that weird) and we obviously got a lead and started winning and the enemy team were flaming this guy (who did desently) and i realised why so many people stop playing

[–]DrDerpberg 0 points1 point ago

There are really only 2 reasons to make smurf accounts. The first is to stomp all over noobs and get a sense of self-satisfaction that I assume is something like proclaiming to your friends "I got laid!" after you pay for a hooker. The second is to try new champs, builds or strategies without embarrassing yourself.

[–]dokkou[dokkou] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

report all the peoples!!! lol but seriously I think that people should help out the newbies. its not fair for them and I hate to see newbies ending up raging and hating this game. for newbies, you should ask questions on how to last hit or item builds and guild them to success. If you lose, oh well at least they learned and try better next time. that is the point for new players since I only been in league for a year and now I have 800 wins being positive and helping out.

[–]Muffit 0 points1 point ago

i made smurf accounts to play with friends and to help new players. I never flame but when i tell them something in the lines of "you can grab wolves before the blue buff spawns which will give you an advantage" i am usually greeted with a "fuck you" or similar. There are so many assholes out there that as soon as people get some critic they retaliate.

TL;DR Stop being fucktards ,people.

[–]Karrl1z4j2 1 point2 points ago

Honestly if it wasn't for the players LoL would be one of the greatest games I have ever played. But the community around this game is so toxic. Whenever I take breaks from the game its because of a bad experience with another player.

[–]Litis3 1 point2 points ago

It's a problem with the ban system currently. The most toxic players of the community get banned from high level accounts and recycled along with the brand new players:/

They're working on it (I've seen pretty cool ideas like putting toxic players in a separate matchmaking system) to try to prevent this.

[–]tOxDeLivER 0 points1 point ago

Why did you let your friend build a Manamune on GP?

[–]Pizzadude 0 points1 point ago

There are actual new players? In all of my time smurfing, I've seen mostly other smurfs...

[–]AJMorgan[AJMorgan] (EU-W) 0 points1 point ago

I tend to find (on my smurf) that the majority of players that I get matched with are terrible players that made smurfs because for some reason, they're in elo hell and they're all terribly arrogant as well and flame like crazy.

[–]tacobellassasin 0 points1 point ago

i smurf and always rape (its sort of a given, i mean im level 30 with 1.5k wins and have been palying for 1.5 years..and i play shaco lol) and i NEVER say a word, if anything, i give helpful advice and im not a dick about it, i ask why they built something then i give them tips on what they could do instead

[–]Bro_man 0 points1 point ago

Scumbag player: get's trashed on his main, goes on his smurf to trash on new players.

players that do this need to be castrated.

[–]KommunistKirov 0 points1 point ago

Welp, personal story time from me.

I got into League of Legends because a group of my friends was playing it quite fanatically at the time. At the beginning I had no idea on how to actually play MOBA's except a few scrapes of DotA from the old Warcraft III days.

So yes I started playing with a group of people, all level 30 and knowing the game inside out. It was quite difficult at first and I actually fed quite epically. And funnily enough I did not get any encouraging "You will get better at this. Chin up" speech. Actually I got yelled at for being so dumb over the ventrillo and explained quite graphically why you do not overextend. There was no insulting but it was quite a big example of a tough love.

And while I do not condone actually insulting your friends for playing bad at the beginning. It's the person calling me out on stupid bullshit I done that drove me to become better at this game.

[–]smischmal[smischmal] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

My very first PvP game was with some asshole like this. I was this close to quitting the entire game right there. I was doing terrible, like insanely terrible, but it doesn't excuse his behaviour. If you're playing in the beginner racket, don't be surprised if people are, you know, beginners. Glad I didn't quit though, because now that I'm (somewhat) better, I get to tell off those shitwizards myself.

[–]kingpool 1 point2 points ago

I know it will surprise most of the people, but tribunal actually works, just report them. Verbal harassment is against the rules.

[–]Mrtakeiteasy 0 points1 point ago

If there are E-Penis's, there are also E-Castrations. Use them wisely.

[–]RoValentino[RoValenAn] (EU-W) 0 points1 point ago

A friend of mine also likes to rage sometimes. So when we play on our smurfs just for fun or to learn a new champ he automatically starts to rage against other guys who are doing bad and mostly players that are just new to the game, but when I said to him why would you do that, just calm down and chill he replied: They did the same thing to me so now I do it to them too.. I didn't get it. Maybe it's just that I'm far from a rager, but this is ridiculous. And I believe there are too many players like him. If we wanna change something we need to start at ourselves and our friends. TL:DR- I got a friend just like that and we need to stop them.

[–]RandomDudeIsRandom 0 points1 point ago

Can't upvote this thread enough! Thats totally my mindset while smurfing.

[–]Nightz 0 points1 point ago

I've leveled to accounts up to level 30, actually about to level my third. Luckily after playing approx 20 matches, I mainly face other smurfs due to the hidden normal elo. What really makes me angry tho, is smurfs at the first five levels that has to flame newer players for not understanding game mechanincs in the first game they play ever, I mean come on.

[–]Touringcar[Walker Evans] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

I recently made a smurf to play with a friend who is new to the game. The first two matches were fine, and we won. After that, seemingly we only got smurfs. Opening conversations /literally/ went like this:

"Goodluck and have fun! :)" "go first urself"

With many more insults throughout the game. We lost the game, each of them had perfect CS 10 minutes in.

I'd like to think this can all be avoided if Riot would just implement activation e-mails: In it's current state you do not have to verify your account in any way, and this makes it possible to get an infinite amount of smurf accounts with no penalty. If you'd have to make an e-mail account for each one, I'd be inclined to think people wouldn't make one so quickly just to troll.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

Learning to ignore/mute the League of Assholes is part of learning the game.

[–]Widdis[Collider] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

I've always found this very thing odd. If you're playing a smurf for the purpose of stomping newer players, why would you even expect your teammates to even have a shred of understanding of the game like you do? You clearly assume the enemy team doesn't know how to auto attack, why would your own team?

Also, an experienced player can offer instant important advice to new players. An error that you see immediately would take them months to figure out with the level of play that they're at. Every time I say something, they adapt almost instantly and are a better player for it.

[–]lordcukraaz 0 points1 point ago

I know the feeling... I'm still quite new to the game, and am still trying to really learn the ins and outs. I know the basics, but I still find myself having trouble with playing all that well. Sadly, more people than I'd like to count spend the entire game bashing on me instead of giving me helpful hints.

Heck, there have been a couple of situations where the OTHER TEAM was nicer to me than my own teammates. Its extremely ridiculous, especially considering EVERYONE is new at some point. Many just seem to forget that.

[–]D3imosS -1 points0 points ago

Couldent agree more.. i sometimes smurf with lowbie friends, but i always try heroes i never played too try too keep it fair. But everygame its like "OMG U DIDNT GO ULTIMATE BUILD, STFU NOOB" too my friends and the never ending "OMG REPORT *insert name" FOR BEING GAY N NOOB"... its like ppl dont understand that they r playing with NEW players who havent been stalking solo mid guides n streams for the last 2 years. I mean not only is it kinda of a dickmove too smurf with ur best heroes n slaughter new players, they must put down the new players aswell.... noone thinks ur cool or good, ur only destroying the community from growing. Please stop and grow up. Play with ppl ur own skill and grow in skill instead of stomping newplayers and slacking off n getting worse at LoL

[–]Pissix 0 points1 point ago*

Thats a low blow .. a) they knew they are better than you most likely and they try to reinforce the feeling that they are better. Prehaps they can't handle belonging to 1200 on their main account.

b) just mute everyone who starts shittalking. The good players will not flame you, since they know they are better than anyone in that game and will just ignore everyone elses opinions and chat and will carry you nonetheless. Bad players have to tell everyone how awesome they are so they can belive it too. There are many a good players who get banned just because they get trapped in this trolltrap of bad players who demand them to defend everything they do in that game, they open their mouth once and the baddies just keep talking till the cows come home and frustrate everyone in the team. This is why most essential skill to learn to ignore the chat on focus on the game, only saying and listening to calls.

Great PSA.

[–]Hammith 1 point2 points ago

I've been smurfing lately because I really suck with Assassins and certain AD carries (seriously, would not blame people for reporting me for feeding at my normal ELO). On my smurf, I try to be really encouraging to everyone that's frustrated.

The trash talk is quite excessive. Especially the 'noobs' bit. I don't know, maybe they're acting like noobs because it's their 4th game? Perhaps that's a possibility?

Times like this make me wish there was a button somewhere that kicked all the assholes off the game.

[–]ChrisIsVicious 0 points1 point ago

basically if someone claims hes on a smurf account and then flames sub 30 players for being bad theres a very high chance their main account isnt 30 yet or is sitting at like 600 elo. You really shouldn't care about their opinions lol.

[–]david531990 0 points1 point ago

I started smurfing today. I did it for the referral and to shake away the frustration of bad games. BUT in the process of killing 30 people I try to help new people. Honestly to make me feel less guilty for raping more new people.