PSA to all the smurfs out there.

Vsx · 3 months

Press tab, mute everyone who is an asshole.

baytor · 3 months

I see a LOT of smurfs when I do tribunal cases and they are very often godawful, also a lot of self-referrals. It is a big shame and a potential loss of income for RIOT (scaring/disgusting away potential new players).

TBH I really don't understand this sort of attitude. OK, I get it, most of the LoL community are, sadly, playing to enlarge their e-peens, but come on, how pathetic of a person one has to be to insult a true newbie (say lvl up to 5) while having played hundreds of games.

mawize · 3 months

yeah wanted to show the game to some friends and 2 of them will never play the game again because they got flamed so hard in their first couple games ... just sad

ITS A GAME - BE NICE

drake0727 · 3 months

I agree with OP, but unfortunately, we are the on the Internets, and anonymity=assholes.

goqo · 3 months

They're the kids who get raged at in level 30 games for sucking, so they take it out on noobs. It really can't be helped.

madSimon · 3 months

I'm pretty sure Manamune is a recommended shop item for GP.

kingofcupcakes · 3 months

I find this a big problem not just in the LoL community, but just about any competitive online-based community. It's just people being assholes because they can. We all started from the bottom, but people forget this, and they verbally assault anyone they think is beneath them. I will never insult someone for being bad unless he also has an attitude problem, because I know I wouldn't want to be treated that way if I were in his shoes. These smurfers, like 90% of the community I'm sure, don't believe in the golden rule.

ImGoingToMakeYouMad · 3 months

How I play a smurf account:

1: Turn music on.

2: Play game. Say glhf, and gg at the end.

3: Advise new players to mute anyone that's an asshole.

4: Never rage, never counter-rage, never insult, never feed a troll.

Easy as that.

damit2hell · 3 months

sad part is, most smurfs are just sub 1200 level 30's that re-roll to think they are good, and are usually on the opposite side of the verbal thrashing when they play on their mains.

SlothPuppet · 3 months

The thing with smurfs is it doesn't matter if you get banned, why do people smurf? To stomp newbies? No. Because it's faster reffering yourself 10 times than it is to farm 6300 IP, in addition you could also have bought a skin with the RP and you get 40 IP win boosts.

Eskimofriend · 3 months

The worst type of smurf is the nidalee smurf... well done at hitting max range spears against people who arnt good enough yet to dodge it (especially the ones that come out the brush). Then they talk in chat about how good they are and how shit every1 else is in the game is. And of course they eventually end up losing the game, blame the team, say how he is just a smurf and doesnt care and his main is 1500 elo (wow so high) and point out his 30/10/0 score means he is the best.

I dont see the fun in destroying noobs as an AP/AD carry, so I either just be support for my friends (any champ will do) or play low tier/not even tier jungle (e.g. jungle bruiser ashe). Under lvl30 any build on any champ works as long as you dont feed because people truly dont have a clue how to play. Yeah, theres always some guy who thinks they know 'the meta' and that my pick is a troll pick, but they cheer up when I get them first blood. No runes ashe jungle 2 OP.

ACmilangab · 3 months

is very sad when you invite friends to the game and they say they suck just because in their first game they went 1/20/0... without knowing that the best of best started like that...

ReflexMan · 3 months

I report every single one. In a level 30 game, someone making fun of someone else is super common, and unless they get extreme with it, not something I will report. Obviously, if they go too far, then report for harassment, but just normal complaints, "omg noob uninstall," so common it isn't worth reporting.

But in a low level game, absolutely. I don't smurf unless I am playing with a friend who is low level. Some people obviously smurf to beat up on new players to feel better about themselves. While that is kind of sad, it would be acceptable if that was the end of it. But whether they are on my team or the enemy team, the second I hear someone complain about a noob being bad, I remember their name and report them. It's unacceptable. You are voluntarily playing low level matches to boost your ego by beating up noobs, yet you are upset that your team also has noobs, and you are holding them to a ridiculous standard? Hell no.

GoodGuyTrundle · 3 months

I recently played a number of smurf games with a friend's friend who was trying the game out. She wasn't really that bad at all (she LOVES Annie btw) but she makes simple mistakes like misclicking a targeted skill or walking too close to use a skillshot. She died to a jungling Lee Sin (really now, you just have to jungle on a smurf to be an asshole about it?) and he said 'Get schooled scrub, uninstall now'. I was just having some fun on Volibear trying a pure dps build, but that really set me off. I instantly bought a Frozen Mallet with the money I had been saving up to keep the lane fair (I had obscene amounts of cs and only killed my opposing laner, who wasn't a smurf, when he actively tried to kill me, then explained to him what he did wrong in the fight) and just hunted the guy in his jungle after timing his buffs. After killing him 2-3 times at his buffs he ragequit saying 'gg scrub team can't help me with fed Voli. Omg noobs uninstall'.

I am still appalled at this guy's lack of any form of self-respect and can only wish him good luck with whatever's going on in his life to make him this angry.

Anomaly10 · 3 months

My favorite thing of all time is people asking for 1v1s because they get trashed when I hop on my smurf to play with new friends. I usually say no unless they're being incredibly obnoxious, at which point I go ahead and show people why trashtalking in low level games doesn't make you good at the game.

Mecxs · 3 months

Why limit this message to smurfs?

Freakcheef · 3 months

After the server split in EU I had to level a smurf on East because some of my friends play there, the majority of them is on West though. I leveled 1-20 only playing Coop vs. AI to not be a dick and stomp people who never touched the game. I dont understand people who play normals on smurfs, you can level just as quick by playing Botgames (even faster since you wont lose a single game) and noone gets hurt.

Elkram · 3 months

I have a smurf and know I would do this, but I've pretty much trained myself to keep all my insults to myself. Even when I'm on skype, I'll say maybe a sentence or two to my friends about how we could have gotten a kill and then I'll be done. The only people I insult are people on the enemy team who insults me first. You want to be a smug punk-ass bitch saying look at me, I'm going to knock down your fucking ego to the ground both in game and in chat.

...

Ok I might have gone over the top in that last sentence.

Ceigee · 3 months

But how do they know that the only reason our team is losing is because of their inability to play better than a drunk man? How can I emphasize my superior abilities in comparison to theirs? How can I point out on the /all chat that I am the I in tIm. :(

shiftybr · 3 months

This is the exactly same reason I never learned to play Dota. I tried to 3 years ago, but that thing became a game where only experienced players play nowadays. So if you buy 1 item wrong, or fucks up a little because you didn't know the enemy's hero abilities, you not only get flamed, but people actually quit the game. Yeah I'm late to the party, but FFS, LET ME LEARN!

It's a good thing LoL has this Lvl thingy, so newbies will be paired with newbies, and can learn the game playing with others who intend to do the same. But as OP said... If you are playing smurf... don't fucking ruin the system. You're lvl 1? Who the fuck cares if you have a 1900 elo account. You're playing with newbies, so you either help them learn, or just shut the fuck up.

fofifth · 3 months

I love hopping on my low level alternate account which was level 4 until after the one match I played. In that match was a vlad with the legendary skin and he finished 2-9 whilst calling my team mates all noobs. At the end of the game I checked his profile and he was level 9. A level 9 who got matched against a bunch of level ~4's and calling them noobs while finishing with that score. GG.

Izuuld · 3 months

Anger is often the result of self hatred, TL/DR ragers are often the least contributing members on any given team.

daftroses · 3 months

I'm the guy that tells friendly newbies they can add my main account.

DarkAncelot · 3 months

It's better this way, once you reach lvl 30 and start playing ranked, guess what? yes, everybody keeps flaming, insulting, etc.

tomch27 · 3 months

i actually love new players when playing on a smurf...i hate having to try hard at level 5.

aquadrake · 3 months

I like what Dota 2 has done in their latest patch. Right when creeps spawn, they put a notice that says to reward good play or to punish meanies after the game. I normally forget to punish, but I often reward people for actively doing what their supposed to do. (supports buying wards, gankers roaming and calling out runes, etc.) I really think LoL should do the same. Only question is ... how to reward people?

Darkstrategy · 3 months

It happens, either grow a thicker skin, don't pvp, or use the ignore function. Honestly anyone that starts shit talking a lowbie for being bad on a smurf acct probably sucks anyway and is trying to boost their own ego in low lv play.

What I do find hilarious, though, is when complete and utter noobs start trash talking about the most ridiculous things. Like the fed master yi saying I'm a pussy for backing out of a 1v1 when i'm playing alistar. When that happens I just laugh my ass off and say "When you get to lv 30, think back to this moment, because you're going to feel pretty stupid."

oWatchdog · 3 months

Seriously though, if you're playing on a smurf account, expect new players. They will make mistakes (as will you, I'm sure). Don't hate.

Hejjihoggu · 3 months

I actually make a point of teaching people to play when I do play on my smurf, I feel like its my bit of community service for the few times I do rage. I'm thinking of keeping track and for every game I rage (probably about 1/10 or less) I will have to do a community service game helping new players learn.

aniviasrevenge · 3 months

I'm always silent on my smurfs unless I'm calling for baron or dragon. That being said, I think Riot does a good job of keeping smurfers together with smurfers (I think if you skip tutorial you get put on Smurf Island, for ex.)

Ericomgz · 3 months

I know pro players smurf etc. But I always assume the asshole smurfers are the ones who can't hack it in ranked, higher level games etc. I just tell that to whatever friend I'm with and that they should /ignore and it seems to work fine.

b0ltzz · 3 months

The ultimate problem with a free game where the amount of accounts you can create is unlimited. People get frustrated at their inability to raise their level of play, and feel the need to take their mediocre skills into low level games and insult everyone around them and brag about how amazing they are. The best thing to do is put these people on ignore, report them, and hope one day they realize how miserable their own lives have become and just quit the game.

Reilly149 · 3 months

when Im on my smurf (which is an extreme rarity), I go with lead by example approach. I rarely talk unless its an absolute necessity to agree with someone over a play decision (ie: them-Baron Guys!!!! Me-no bad time, extremely dangerous, heres why)

Chaipod · 3 months

I stopped playing with new players on my smurf after 5 games ... The match making system only puts me up against other smurfs now making it essentially a 30s game with no runes or masteries >.> However, when I did play with new players I was too busy having fun to complain about Ashe's deathcap.

heyboyhey · 3 months

I have low level account for when I go on the other servers and every time I am reminded of how bad it can be pre lvl 20. First of all matchmaking is a mess, grouping you with players way out of your skill range, both up and down. Second of all people don't give a shit if their smurfs are banned so they act way worse than on their main accounts. Awful!

Heartz · 3 months

When i'm playing on my smurf, i don't even bother writing anything because it seems like they don't even understand the game and it would take ages to explain them properly. Only problem is that those ppl will insult you for not doing retarded things with them.

Shovelspoon · 3 months

It's just the butthurt banned players who want to inflict their own misery upon new players, until their account becomes unbanned. It really is a shame that Riot can't do much about this.

nitsogop · 3 months

I totally agree. I remember when I first started about a year ago, it was first very hard to play because everyone had a smurf and got to play level fours and second off I just got insulted for not knowing how to play when I really didn't know how. I think this all lends back to the fact that the LOL community needs to realize that there are people on the other sides of champions and they too want to enjoy the game and win and being a bad sport will not help either of those goals.

ibanezninja · 3 months

yes it is

dudester567 · 3 months

:/ I don't have a smurf account, my account is just low level. I often get comments remarking " ~ IS NOOB! ~ MADE US LOSE TOP!"

But I said I can't solo top!! -_-

tg989 · 3 months

As far as I've seen with my smurfs - after 5-10 games you are in a match with all smurfs because of your hidden elo system. You'll get the occasional newbie who queues with a smurf friend, but its mostly smurfs. You can tell when they have names like "asheinurface" and hit a frozen arrow from across the map at summoner level 5.

Richie311 · 3 months

This is a big reason why I think there should be a no tolerance policy for harassment/flaming/trolling or just in general douchebaggery for accounts under level 20 or so.

If someone is reported enough to go to tribunal and is banned, they should just delete the account and make them start over if it's under level 20 or so. Maybe having to re-level the account will make them think twice about trolling.

Arachnut · 3 months

Lately in Tribunal im seeing a lot of players saying "lol noob dis isnt my main account i beat u 1v1 on my main". However im suspicious if they actually have a 'better' account, or bullshitting to make themselves look better.

Flapjack_ · 3 months

My first smurf account match with some friends who were legitimately new to the game I played Swain and would go CAWCAWCAWCAWCAW in all chat right before or after I did my ult, which at that level of play usually resulted in a kill or two.

I felt bad about it afterward.

Blistful · 3 months

I never understood the bragging part. You have a "high elo" account and shit, but you're smurfing? I tend to think that 1. you dont 2. you suck at the "high elo to avoid facing those people"

Im_not_Rammus · 3 months

It took me over a year to level my account to 30 because I maybe played a game or 2 a day, maybe not even daily. The people are just awful and can make the game not fun to play.Only reason I ever play is if my friend asks me too, I don't dare play with 4 randoms.

Fbizzle · 3 months

I applaud you and I always try to help new players when I smurf, but I do see a lot of assholes and know exactly what you're talking about

mrsmoonp13 · 3 months

I am new to the game. This happens to me daily.

Drewcula · 3 months

I just play Co-ops on my smurf so I can go do ranked!

awkwardloveyous · 3 months

sometimes helping sounds like being an asshole, just because the tone that you say it doesn;t come across.

47h315m · 3 months

It IS a free2play TEAMGAME. You shouldn't ever go in and mute everybody because it will your teams ability to win the game.

But the Free2Play part makes it a game where anybody can come in and insult you. There isn't a lot you can do about it unless you ignore them. Posts like this are the only way you can really fight this, appeal to the community. It will make the trolls stand out even more and it's easier to report them and get them banned (even if only temporarily)

L0que · 3 months

I feed. I say "Insult the new player one more time, and I'll start running mid. Is this OK with you New Player?"

I've never had one say "no"

joeeb22 · 3 months

Ppl get big egos over the internet im waiting on science to give the sock'em through the screen option. Till then all we can do is try to set good examples.

Igno4 · 3 months

I don't insult new players. I get mad at people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results...

darcartisan · 3 months

I saw the same thing when I went down with my friend. I went something like 35/1, but the other team spammed all chat about how everyone on their team was bad although no one was playing particularly well, even their 3 smurfs (what level 2 players buy legendary skins..?) It's funny to watch, but a sad fact of the game

williamwzl · 3 months

Unless you are 9 years old or have never played a player vs player game you will be able to ignore and shut out the assholes. People are accustomed to internet badasses and they trash talk everywhere. Yes it's nice to have a nice friendly community but in the end there will always be people like this and honestly I think it's been blown up to be a much bigger problem than it is.

LigerZ0 · 3 months

To be fair, your wow friends probably made fun of bad players on there. Its a two way street.

linedpaper92 · 3 months

whenever I play on my smurf I try to be helpful to players, even on the enemy team in the hopes that in the future they aren't douchey trolls when they're level 30 and on my team

Aameul · 3 months

I never understood the mentality behind insulting your teammates. "hey they are doing bad, lets make them feel/do worse by insulting them." NOT one time has this EVER helped. 1) It's just a game. 2) Not everybody is going to be amazing every time. Just play to have fun and if you can't do that then go on to something else.

mappyflappy · 3 months

My favorite moment on my smurf was a guy claiming to have a 1700 elo account complaining becuz I only built mana items on ryze instead of ap and then deciding to type in all chat "retarded ryze has no ap wtf is wrong with this retard" O.o For the next 20 minutes my team and the other team got to sit and make fun of the guy till he ragequits :P totally worth the loss. I won't normally be a dick in games to teammates but ragers just anger me. The LoL community Is constantly getting worse especially in the north American server.

papasmurf255 · 3 months

Yeah? Well smurf you too.

fearthewhale · 3 months

This, among just the general attitude of the league of legends community has made me not really enjoy playing anymore.

It sucks that the majority of the people playing are complete douchebags all the time.

YoureLateToTheParty · 3 months

Ignore them, and move on. Have one smurf character I play on if I'm too drunk or high to be an asset to high level teams and I shit you not it was me and 1 other guy vs 3 of them. 5 leavers total. Of course I thought it was hilarious but what the fuck guys. Seriously.

HITAN · 3 months

I will never in my life understand why people do this. I really won't. I can knda see why people make smurf accounts. You aren't doing too well in ranked, and you need to blow off some steam. I get that.

But if you are doing so good, you should be happy....so then where is all that malice coming from?

nRRe · 3 months

I give advice when playing on smurfs, actually in process of leveling an Alt to 30, for no real reason...just because I guess. And i try to give other playeres advice. but you can't help a 4/21/3 Yi who only has Zerkers and Guardian Angel at 40 minutes =P

altx · 3 months

I dunno... I find that a lot of low level players and/or new players are pretty bad mannered anyway. It's like its a different world down there.

Incizions · 3 months

Amen

Radiancelol · 3 months

If you've reached lvl 30 on your main, you've must have realized by now that it isn't just smurfs that rage at players.... There are usually 1-2 in every game.

Frostatine · 3 months

Manamune is in the recommended build for GP. I find it funny that no one really builds it anymore, something riot should have noticed by now.

Oh well, there are infinite ways to find blame in LoL just as there are infinite ways to find victory. Be upbeat :D

Its just a game.

darkplumb90 · 3 months

Thing called the mute feature, you should learn to use it.
And even better, the report button.

thewasko · 3 months

I'm pretty new, and this just happened to me in a 3v3 where someone said he was using a smurf. I misunderstood how they wanted me to gank in the beginning of the game and I was insulted the rest of the game, even though I ended up with a better score than them. Really made me want to intentionally feed though, it's super annoying.

Drewu271 · 3 months

"Hey what char did you wanna play?" "Nidalee top please." Bans Nidalee :(

delebird · 3 months

Whether I play my smurf or my main, I try to teach anyone the basics of LoL, whether they're my ally or my enemy.

MypipesnameisGandalf · 3 months

I've been having the same problem while teaching my brother to play.

AnimusNZ · 3 months

Also, getting slaughtered every game when just starting out due to 9/10 new accounts being smurfs isn't a fun way to learn at all. i think this really hinders new players experiences, thank god for co-op but still i wonder how many people are turned away due to bad experiences in pvp

spases · 3 months

couldn't have said it better myself. we were all there at one point, be the good guy greg that helps new players get better. this game has a relatively high learning curve, putting people on the right track goes towards reducing the time required to learn the basics.

it's ridiculous if people need to beat up new players on their smurfs because they can't fight people in their skill range... come on, be classy.

rogeris · 3 months

But what happens when the low level guys bitch at me while I'm smurfing saying I should be playing better b/c I'm lvl 30.

Bitch, if I wanted to play seriously, I'd be on my main account playing one of my main toons, not practicing some new hero that's free this week! /rant

Cersia · 3 months

The way people treat each other is the same no matter what level you're at. People will call their teammates noobs regardless of whether or not they're actually new, and people will always say they're better than everyone else on the team.

Whether you're on a low account getting told you're bad by smurfs, or you're on a 30 account getting told you're bad by 30s. It's all the same, and honestly, I don't believe that these posts will ever change that. If it did, then this post wouldn't exist because it's been said countless times before this.

Good on you for trying, but the day people stop flaming each other will be the day pigs grow wings and fly.

Imarvine · 3 months

When Im on my smurf I get the new players on my team and all the enemies are smurfs...

Rooskimus · 3 months

Had the same thing happen with a friend of mine. He even prefaced the match with "I'm still learning, guys, so I'll probably make some noob mistakes" then faced constant ridicule.

groteklotzaak · 3 months

I played a game the other day where someone on my team told us in queue that he "was going to troll if there were any Asians on the team". I'm not Asian, but I didn't feel that I needed to tell him what race I was because I wasn't going to play the game giving into idle threats. Lo and behold, he throws the game, telling positioning to the other team, feeding on purpose, and trolling the players on our team who are trying.

That sucks, but the biggest thing that pissed me off was he was saying "it doesn't matter - I'm on my smurf". I was pissed beyond belief! I remember what it was like when I was first starting to play (I was on my smurf also for this game) and I kept trying to help everyone on my team out, but OP just ruined it for several people.

The worst part? I e-mailed Riot and asked if they could do anything in particular with players who troll behind the safety of their smurf account and they told me they didn't reveal that information. I don't want to know what happened exactly, I just want to know that the people who potentially stopped playing because of that bad game was made up for somehow by Riot.

BlindKitty · 3 months

Tis why i play coop vs ai. You can actually teach people

MTRsport · 3 months

Heimerdinger is awesome though! Those guys are the noobs!

japandr0id · 3 months

http://oi40.tinypic.com/ra6tdl.jpg

This is usually me after playing a game on a smurf.

Dopebear · 3 months

You don't get it. When we do offer advice everybody shit talks you.

Pinky01 · 3 months

I have played many games where "team mates" have insulted their team. I have actually even left one game. People need to realize that its just a game and nto get so pissed off. Sometimes you are learning new characters or are just having a bad game. Some players really shouldnt be playing in a team game like LOL if they cant be supportive

Zimoria · 3 months

This kind of behavior made me take a break from the game for months. I got tired of having to type /ignore every game. I rarely pug still because of this.

Think of it from the newbies point of view, you're having a blast in this cool new game you found. It's crazy and unpredictable(at that point, assuming they've never played anything like LoL or HoN), which makes it so exciting. You feel like you could play it all day it's so much fun.

Then some smurf comes along and sticks his metaphorical dick in your metaphorical birthday cake. "Stop feeding, fucking noob.""wtf are you building?""stop being bad." WOW that is just so helpful! Please reprimand me more with no explanation of what I'm doing wrong! /sarcasm

I would not have minded being told to be more cautious or even being yelled at with at least some kind of explanation. At least I'd know what I could do then and there to fix it. It makes the game feel so shitty, because you start to feel like everyone is going to default to being an asshole in chat.

Yes, I know there's an ignore function but that still doesn't justify insulting new players or players in general. There's a human being on the other side of that screen, you don't know if they're going through a hellish point in their lives and this game is how they get away from it all.

People need to get the fact that there are HUMAN BEINGS, with feelings(most of them at least). No matter how cognitively incompetent or outright idiotic they may seem, that doesn't make abusing them okay. However if they're your friends and like to joke around like that with you, that's okay.

Jeez I went on a bit of a touchy-feely rant didn't I? I get pissed off at my friends when they give the only pug a hard time.

TL;DR: don't be a dick. L2Empathy.<-- This game would be so much more fun if we did more of this.

waichi · 3 months

I only insult the other smurfs that shyt talk.

HamsterSlave · 3 months

smurfs on our team just constantly insulting him and bragging about how they're so much better than him.

People with bad confidence bash other people for not doing good. I myself just think its pathetic if someone start flaming.

Sure its nice when someone actually has something to say about someones play, that just might help it improve, but just bashing for the sake of it makes me sad for that person.

And also, there are way to young and immature people playing this game...and that will not change unless all the parents in the world learns to raise there kids to not be fucking douchebags.

kpluto · 3 months

the only people that I actually want to yell at are the afk's, trolls, and obviously (very obviously) not helpful teammates.

Other than that, I stick up for those guys.

People are usually alll nice in the beginning, then they become enraged if we start losing e_e

Ooitastic · 3 months

I have friends who have quit because of smurfs yelling at them... I can't emphasize how much a little insult does.

danhakimi · 3 months

Can we still troll them?

Can I still get to level 5 playing only AP Carry Soraka? I take her solo bot now and then, because my teammates don't get how lanes work.

duckstaped · 3 months

It's really hard to convince new players that the LoL community isnt all that bad when this kind of stuff happens in all the lowbie games

Kaoculus · 3 months

best one is where every player pretends like they are playing on a smurf.

apparently everyone has a 1700 elo smurf. when i was at that elo, everyone always said "i'm a smurf i'm actually 2k let me do whatever i want you guys are bad and shouldn't talk to me." >_>

SovietK · 3 months

This. Its funny how people can make an account, start playing and in their very first game of all time get blamed for not understanding the game.

koonkoon · 3 months

Maybe some people get bored to the logic on win one/lose one. Or they are on losing streak and need some ego boost.

vodkamutini · 3 months

i don't see why this should apply to just smurfs

why is it acceptable to endlessly berate anyone just because they're playing poorly or you don't agree with their build choices?

blueandshort · 3 months

i agree with you played on a smurf to lvl up a couple of lvls whilest waithíng for my friend and this one game i got into a full smurf team (this was 3v3 so not that weird) and we obviously got a lead and started winning and the enemy team were flaming this guy (who did desently) and i realised why so many people stop playing

DrDerpberg · 3 months

There are really only 2 reasons to make smurf accounts. The first is to stomp all over noobs and get a sense of self-satisfaction that I assume is something like proclaiming to your friends "I got laid!" after you pay for a hooker. The second is to try new champs, builds or strategies without embarrassing yourself.

dokkou · 3 months

report all the peoples!!! lol but seriously I think that people should help out the newbies. its not fair for them and I hate to see newbies ending up raging and hating this game. for newbies, you should ask questions on how to last hit or item builds and guild them to success. If you lose, oh well at least they learned and try better next time. that is the point for new players since I only been in league for a year and now I have 800 wins being positive and helping out.

Muffit · 3 months

i made smurf accounts to play with friends and to help new players. I never flame but when i tell them something in the lines of "you can grab wolves before the blue buff spawns which will give you an advantage" i am usually greeted with a "fuck you" or similar. There are so many assholes out there that as soon as people get some critic they retaliate.

TL;DR Stop being fucktards ,people.

Karrl1z4j2 · 3 months

Honestly if it wasn't for the players LoL would be one of the greatest games I have ever played. But the community around this game is so toxic. Whenever I take breaks from the game its because of a bad experience with another player.

Litis3 · 3 months

It's a problem with the ban system currently. The most toxic players of the community get banned from high level accounts and recycled along with the brand new players:/

They're working on it (I've seen pretty cool ideas like putting toxic players in a separate matchmaking system) to try to prevent this.

tOxDeLivER · 3 months

Why did you let your friend build a Manamune on GP?

Pizzadude · 3 months

There are actual new players? In all of my time smurfing, I've seen mostly other smurfs...

AJMorgan · 3 months

I tend to find (on my smurf) that the majority of players that I get matched with are terrible players that made smurfs because for some reason, they're in elo hell and they're all terribly arrogant as well and flame like crazy.

tacobellassasin · 3 months

i smurf and always rape (its sort of a given, i mean im level 30 with 1.5k wins and have been palying for 1.5 years..and i play shaco lol) and i NEVER say a word, if anything, i give helpful advice and im not a dick about it, i ask why they built something then i give them tips on what they could do instead

Bro_man · 3 months

Scumbag player: get's trashed on his main, goes on his smurf to trash on new players.

players that do this need to be castrated.

KommunistKirov · 3 months

Welp, personal story time from me.

I got into League of Legends because a group of my friends was playing it quite fanatically at the time. At the beginning I had no idea on how to actually play MOBA's except a few scrapes of DotA from the old Warcraft III days.

So yes I started playing with a group of people, all level 30 and knowing the game inside out. It was quite difficult at first and I actually fed quite epically. And funnily enough I did not get any encouraging "You will get better at this. Chin up" speech. Actually I got yelled at for being so dumb over the ventrillo and explained quite graphically why you do not overextend. There was no insulting but it was quite a big example of a tough love.

And while I do not condone actually insulting your friends for playing bad at the beginning. It's the person calling me out on stupid bullshit I done that drove me to become better at this game.

smischmal · 3 months

My very first PvP game was with some asshole like this. I was this close to quitting the entire game right there. I was doing terrible, like insanely terrible, but it doesn't excuse his behaviour. If you're playing in the beginner racket, don't be surprised if people are, you know, beginners. Glad I didn't quit though, because now that I'm (somewhat) better, I get to tell off those shitwizards myself.

kingpool · 3 months

I know it will surprise most of the people, but tribunal actually works, just report them. Verbal harassment is against the rules.

Mrtakeiteasy · 3 months

If there are E-Penis's, there are also E-Castrations. Use them wisely.

RoValentino · 3 months

A friend of mine also likes to rage sometimes. So when we play on our smurfs just for fun or to learn a new champ he automatically starts to rage against other guys who are doing bad and mostly players that are just new to the game, but when I said to him why would you do that, just calm down and chill he replied: They did the same thing to me so now I do it to them too.. I didn't get it. Maybe it's just that I'm far from a rager, but this is ridiculous. And I believe there are too many players like him. If we wanna change something we need to start at ourselves and our friends. TL:DR- I got a friend just like that and we need to stop them.

RandomDudeIsRandom · 3 months

Can't upvote this thread enough! Thats totally my mindset while smurfing.

Nightz · 3 months

I've leveled to accounts up to level 30, actually about to level my third. Luckily after playing approx 20 matches, I mainly face other smurfs due to the hidden normal elo. What really makes me angry tho, is smurfs at the first five levels that has to flame newer players for not understanding game mechanincs in the first game they play ever, I mean come on.

Touringcar · 3 months

I recently made a smurf to play with a friend who is new to the game. The first two matches were fine, and we won. After that, seemingly we only got smurfs. Opening conversations /literally/ went like this:

"Goodluck and have fun! :)" "go first urself"

With many more insults throughout the game. We lost the game, each of them had perfect CS 10 minutes in.

I'd like to think this can all be avoided if Riot would just implement activation e-mails: In it's current state you do not have to verify your account in any way, and this makes it possible to get an infinite amount of smurf accounts with no penalty. If you'd have to make an e-mail account for each one, I'd be inclined to think people wouldn't make one so quickly just to troll.

[deleted] · 3 months

Learning to ignore/mute the League of Assholes is part of learning the game.

Widdis · 3 months

I've always found this very thing odd. If you're playing a smurf for the purpose of stomping newer players, why would you even expect your teammates to even have a shred of understanding of the game like you do? You clearly assume the enemy team doesn't know how to auto attack, why would your own team?

Also, an experienced player can offer instant important advice to new players. An error that you see immediately would take them months to figure out with the level of play that they're at. Every time I say something, they adapt almost instantly and are a better player for it.

lordcukraaz · 3 months

I know the feeling... I'm still quite new to the game, and am still trying to really learn the ins and outs. I know the basics, but I still find myself having trouble with playing all that well. Sadly, more people than I'd like to count spend the entire game bashing on me instead of giving me helpful hints.

Heck, there have been a couple of situations where the OTHER TEAM was nicer to me than my own teammates. Its extremely ridiculous, especially considering EVERYONE is new at some point. Many just seem to forget that.

D3imosS · 3 months

Couldent agree more.. i sometimes smurf with lowbie friends, but i always try heroes i never played too try too keep it fair. But everygame its like "OMG U DIDNT GO ULTIMATE BUILD, STFU NOOB" too my friends and the never ending "OMG REPORT *insert name" FOR BEING GAY N NOOB"... its like ppl dont understand that they r playing with NEW players who havent been stalking solo mid guides n streams for the last 2 years. I mean not only is it kinda of a dickmove too smurf with ur best heroes n slaughter new players, they must put down the new players aswell.... noone thinks ur cool or good, ur only destroying the community from growing. Please stop and grow up. Play with ppl ur own skill and grow in skill instead of stomping newplayers and slacking off n getting worse at LoL

Pissix · 3 months

Thats a low blow .. a) they knew they are better than you most likely and they try to reinforce the feeling that they are better. Prehaps they can't handle belonging to 1200 on their main account.

b) just mute everyone who starts shittalking. The good players will not flame you, since they know they are better than anyone in that game and will just ignore everyone elses opinions and chat and will carry you nonetheless. Bad players have to tell everyone how awesome they are so they can belive it too. There are many a good players who get banned just because they get trapped in this trolltrap of bad players who demand them to defend everything they do in that game, they open their mouth once and the baddies just keep talking till the cows come home and frustrate everyone in the team. This is why most essential skill to learn to ignore the chat on focus on the game, only saying and listening to calls.

Great PSA.

Hammith · 3 months

I've been smurfing lately because I really suck with Assassins and certain AD carries (seriously, would not blame people for reporting me for feeding at my normal ELO). On my smurf, I try to be really encouraging to everyone that's frustrated.

The trash talk is quite excessive. Especially the 'noobs' bit. I don't know, maybe they're acting like noobs because it's their 4th game? Perhaps that's a possibility?

Times like this make me wish there was a button somewhere that kicked all the assholes off the game.

ChrisIsVicious · 3 months

basically if someone claims hes on a smurf account and then flames sub 30 players for being bad theres a very high chance their main account isnt 30 yet or is sitting at like 600 elo. You really shouldn't care about their opinions lol.

david531990 · 3 months

I started smurfing today. I did it for the referral and to shake away the frustration of bad games. BUT in the process of killing 30 people I try to help new people. Honestly to make me feel less guilty for raping more new people.

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