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Should I go to my sister's baptism? It only has religious significance, unlike my brother coming home from his mission. I just want to be sure I'm not being a total asshole. (self.exmormon)
submitted 3 months ago* by imd
Edit: I asked her if she wanted me to go, she said she didn't care, but I decided to go. Apparently she was happy I did, so I guess it was the right thing to do.
[–]throwaway123454321BFF of JS Jr. in the PME per my PB 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago
Go, because it's your family and you love them. Even if its stupid.
[–]AnotherClosetAtheistCrying makes your testimony true! 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
Agreed. Just view it as an old familial tradition of coming of age - a chance to get together and celebrate life and growing up.
[–]ZuggyGreeter at the Great and Spacious Building 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
My sister generally sings a solo on Christmas Sunday and this year was in a choir event hosted by the church. Whenever she sings she says "I understand how you feel about the church and religion and if you don't want to go you don't have to, but I'm singing if you're interested." I always go. Yes it's the church, yes it's religious and I'm an agnostic atheist, but I don't care, it's important to her which makes it important to me.
Since she's taken up swearing lately I her told just to call me and say, "Bitch, I'm singing, be there." Many who leave the church are bitter about it, and rightfully so. I was one of those bitter people for a long time, but I figure if we don't connect with those we care about because of that bitterness we are still letting the church control our lives.
You did the right thing. You didn't go to support the church, you went to support and show love towards your sister.
[–]ringmasternj 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago
I'll just create an example here, this is no way intended to say you or anyone else fits this scenario, it's just to paint a picture.
A guy is Atheist. His sister is Christian. His sister is getting married in her church, so in this sense its more than a simple marriage ceremony. It is also a religious ceremony, with prayer, etc. Of course she wants him to be there in this important day in her life. The guy doesn't agree with Christian theology, but does he skip the ceremony? Is it about the ceremony, or is it about her?
I think this baptism, whatever age your sister is, is probably important to her. In the least, she probably feels it important that you be there. In essence, to me at least, not going doesn't tell your sister you're strong in your non Mormon belief. I honestly think she'll see it as you, as you put it, are being a "total asshole".
I think when choosing between my feelings, or my family, I tend to lean to the latter first. Now if I were asked to go to church every Sunday, no. That, to me, is normal mundane events. The big ones, like a baptism, blessing of a newborn, marriage, etc, I can set my feelings aside for a moment and support my loved ones. Even if I wholeheartedly disagree with it. Silently. Just my two cents.
[–]kmartphotobooth 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago
Great answer. I'm an athiest, but I attend events like baptisms and blessings not because I agree with the choice, but because I support the person, regardless of their decision.
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There are times it can be difficult, especially because I don't really advertise my lack of beliefs, but they're all aware I have no love for religion. I think my mother knows but sticks her head in the sand.
It is especially fun at these events because one half of the family is Mormon and the other is Baptist. I like to sit back and watch them attempt to out-Jesus one another.
[–]doubledmateo 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
Mormon and Baptist... That has got to be interesting. I love watching people passive aggressively outdo each other. :)
[–]speakpurple 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago
I didn't go to the blessings or baptisms of my younger nieces or nephews but went to the after parties. I don't want to be part of the religious ceremony but want them to know I care.
[–]doubledmateo 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
That's not a bad idea either. :) Plus you get to be the one aunt/uncle that's getting them presents they're actually excited about instead of scriptures or church related paraphernalia. I could have used an aunt/uncle like that for sure. If I remember right I got scriptures and a scripture case and then a bunch of illustrated children scripture things. It was a horrid time.
[–]exmotreesguns11 years clean 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago*
Is your sister 8? Then yes. Is your sister an adult? Then no.
Basically if she understands that you not wanting to go to the baptism has nothing to do with her, and does not take it personally then it's ok. If you think there is the slightest chance it won't be that way you should go.
[–]shockednappalled 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago
I support my family in their choices and ask for the same respect in return. If its important to your sister that you be there, go. Every family activity or event doesn't have to be a statement regarding your lack of belief, it should just be about supporting those you care about in what they choose for their own lives.
[–]transmogrification 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
I'll have to dissent. Maybe I'm still too close to leaving TSCC, but it seems so terribly wrong to support the indoctrination of a child who can't decide for herself. Going to watch a musical performance is one thing, but the thought of attending a baptism makes turn a little.
If she isn't old and mature enough to comprehend why wouldn't want to attend her baptism, how is she remotely ready to make a decision about getting baptized in the first place?
It seems you should be able to find a way to show your love and support for your sister if attending a baptism doesn't sit well with you.
[–]LazarWulfDescendant of the tribe of Ardi. 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago
My wife is TBM and I'm atheist, therefore my young kids are being raised mormon (for now). My daughter will be 8 this year, and it's kind of hard when she asks me if I'll baptize her and why not when I tell her that I won't. My family doesn't quite get it either, "Why don't you get your act together so you can baptize your daughter? You'll feel better about yourself and will receive lots of blessings." And so on. I feel just fine about myself, and kind of pity them that they base their whole existence on this fairy tale. When my kids are a little older and mature, I'll start teaching them about skepticism and to think for themselves whether or not if they believe. I won't force anything down their throats one way or the other, but I want them to know that it's ok to question what you're taught.
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