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[–]mtnDUE 16 points17 points ago

How do you prevent your girls from cutting you out? Meaning, the girl uses you to meet clients and then maintains an escort relationship with the Johns, but does pay you a booking fee.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

The clients don't often stay with just one girl. And even if they do, they like to use my service to book through. It interjects a little bit of space into the relationship between the girl and the client. She doesn't know his last name, he doesn't know her real name at all, and they don't have each others' phone numbers. So clients can't start stalking the girls, girls can't try to blackmail the clients. Plus, because I have client bases in four cities, the girls can travel and get more bookings through me.

[–]fluffikins_esq 14 points15 points ago

What's the scariest part of the job? Do you get paid based on the risk, or is it just a flat rate? Thank you!!

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 29 points30 points ago

The scariest part would be when clients become unpredictable. And possibly law enforcement trying to find a way to prove we're doing something illegal when we aren't. The girls get a flat rate for their time and I get a flat rate for booking appointments for them.

[–]Columba 29 points30 points ago

Do you offer a Redditor discount?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 18 points19 points ago

Haha I'll have to seriously consider it :-P

[–]Ozera 10 points11 points ago

How many PM's have you gotten now?

[–]AbanoMex 37 points38 points ago

have you ever escorted someone, and did that end up in sex?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 29 points30 points ago

Yes

[–]BarfingKitten 12 points13 points ago*

Is that what led up to your running an escort service now? If not or not exactly, then what did?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 20 points21 points ago

I was in the industry for a while and never particularly enjoyed it. It wasn't absolutely horrific or anything, but it was definitely a job. Since I knew so much about the industry, I decided to take what I knew and make my job into something I enjoyed. And my business is what happened.

[–]BarfingKitten 8 points9 points ago

  1. Can you tell us about how and why you got into this industry?
  2. What do you usually do outside of work?
  3. What are your aspirations?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 15 points16 points ago

  1. I grew up pretty poor and in a slightly rural area. My mom died almost right after I graduated high school. I didn't go to college, moved to a more populated area, and being an escort was the best/fastest way to make money for me at the time.
  2. I hang out with my SO and friends. I sometimes travel. I have pets. The business takes up a lot of my time (it's my baby) so I'm normally on the phone with my employees or the girls at least a quarter of my waking day.
  3. Eventually I'd love to be a little more removed from the business (it just takes up so much time!) and be an owner rather than employee myself. I'd love to expand to other states. I want kids someday.

[–]Musicman425 42 points43 points ago

How would you feel if your kids became escorts? Would you tell them your employment?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

It's something I'll really need to think about once we actually start trying to conceive. I'd probably try to give them as much information as they can understand without becoming overwhelmed, because I think that's just generally a good way to raise children. I wouldn't be upset if my kids became escorts, but it's something I would want to make sure they really want to do (not because it's an easy way to make money, which is kind of why I did it)

[–]Crochetniac 28 points29 points ago

Have you ever had a girl work as an escort and refuse clients sex? Did you let her go for this, even though she was technically following the rules? Did she work for very long after, or hold onto any clients who were just lonely?

I always get curious about this because as far as I know, the law states that's it's legal for someone to pay for a pretty girl to escort them around town, but at the end of the day when the service is over, what happens between 2 consenting adults is just what's happening between 2 consenting adults.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 10 points11 points ago

I've never had one of my girls do that. However, the clients take reviews of the girls very seriously, so if they log onto one of the review sites and see a girl with bad reviews it will be very hard to get any bookings for her. And if she's not getting any bookings, there's no point in having a business relationship with her anymore. Sometimes I terminate my business relationship with girls because of their shitty attitude or they aren't reliable, so it's never just about what they will or won't do. Also, just to put this out there, we do have some clients who really are just lonely and want some company. Usually the girls like those dates the best.

[–]lets_discuss_ur_butt 216 points217 points ago

How much for anal?

[–]Morphix007 31 points32 points ago

Your name is one of the few I recognize on reddit

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[–]Grape_Accusations 7 points8 points ago

hands across..AMERICAAAAA

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 65 points66 points ago

Can't tell if serious...or just a novelty account

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[–]Reagan2012 12 points13 points ago

I think if you want anal you need to provide the dildo.

[–]lets_discuss_ur_butt 81 points82 points ago

Very serious.

[–]Fuqwon 11 points12 points ago

It's always a serious question.

[–]Kerfuffly 3 points4 points ago

Well.....

[–]DK_Pooter 1 point2 points ago

This dudes the real deal

[–]Spiridytus 3 points4 points ago

In every single AMA you are the top comment, and what_os is the 2nd comment.

[–]Unique_Redditor 7 points8 points ago

That's 50 Euros more.

[–]metalbladex4 1 point2 points ago

50 euros

[–]putitonice 5 points6 points ago

I love you.

[–]clayides 0 points1 point ago

Every time i see you, an upvote sir!

[–]puredemo[M] 9 points10 points ago

Verified.

[–]pumpalumpagain 10 points11 points ago

(How) Do you make sure that your staff is safe with their clients?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 17 points18 points ago

I'm more worried about my clients being safe with my staff. The girls aren't stupid, they know that there are certain risks they have to deal with. They want to minimize those risks as much as possible so there's really not a whole lot I have to do to make sure they're taking care of themselves. As far as clientele go, I do have a screening process to make sure whoever my ladies are seeing is as safe as possible.

[–]icantastethecolors 13 points14 points ago

How does the screening process work?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 7 points8 points ago

We try to get references from other providers (escorts) to make sure the client is a good one to have. If they don't have any, we try to do employment verification to make sure he's financially stable and a responsible adult over the age of 18 (also this normally eliminates law enforcement from trying to book with us). If all else fails I allow the girls to meet with the client for a drink in a public place before their date and have her make the call if she feels safe seeing him.

[–]hlabarka 6 points7 points ago

Do your staff carry weapons?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 2 points3 points ago

Most of the girls do have mace/pepper spray. I've never had a girl feel that she even needed to consider using it.

[–]eskimo_hammr 37 points38 points ago

Are you afraid that Richard Gere will charm your escorts into retirement?

[–]AveofSpades 9 points10 points ago

Or that George Costanza will attempt to sexually assault your escorts?

[–]hc21 8 points9 points ago

How much money do you typically make per month/year?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 21 points22 points ago*

It can vary from month to month and I only started my business about a year ago. On average I take in between $1000 and $2000 a day from the appointments I make for my girls. There are costs for the advertising, web site maintenance, database, residential locations, and phone staff. So my profits are roughly $30000 a month, give or take. Edit: before taxes.

[–]BarfingKitten 4 points5 points ago

So you do pay taxes? Do you file as self employed?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 17 points18 points ago

I do pay taxes. Many times a legal escort service can run into trouble because they don't do their taxes correctly. My company is an LLC and I technically take a salary as an employee.

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[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 18 points19 points ago

When I started my business the first thing I did was hire an accountant to advise me on the financial aspects of what I wanted to do (to make sure I was staying legal as far as finances and taxes were concerned and to help me make the sorts of decisions you're talking about). When the business began we both felt it was best to start off with me making my money as an employee. We might switch things around now that I'm established and doing well. Edit: Actually, first I hired a lawyer. Then accountant.

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[–]SAFETY_dance 4 points5 points ago

Now you just need to delete facebook, hit the gym and you'll be all set!

[–]kylco 2 points3 points ago

Edit: Actually, first I hired a lawyer. Then accountant.

Wisdom, right there.

[–]execute85 2 points3 points ago

Because you would need to pay corporate tax on the income of the LLC and then capital gains on the draw (i.e., that would be stupid).

This would only be advantageous if you could keep all of your personal expenses as LLC expenses, but that's pretty hard to do.

In S-Corps (not LLCs and not C-corps) you can take a K-1 distribution and skip the social security taxes, but you still pay personal income, not capital gains.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

how do you handle paperwork? are they all independent contractors or what?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

That's pretty much exactly how I handle it. All our contracts are carefully drawn up so that my relationship with my employees and with the girls is very specific and defined. My employees (the people who do phones) are considered independent contractors (1099). And, like I've said in a few other places in this thread, the girls are actually hiring me, not the other way around. So I'm getting paid by them for my services.

[–]Fuqwon 16 points17 points ago

I just became extremely skeptical.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 5 points6 points ago

Why's that?

[–]Fuqwon 4 points5 points ago

Well to start, a 25 yearold woman running a prostitution ring sounds hard to believe, but probably not outside the realm of possibility.

But for you then to have net $360,000 in your first year just for yourself? That's slightly harder to believe.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 11 points12 points ago

I haven't quite netted that amount yet. My first few months were much slower than things are right now. I was only working with three girls and hadn't developed the client base I have at this point. Now I have about 25 girls using my service in three cities, a very large client base, and two employees (who are not escorts). We've been very successful. Today I made $1690 from the appointments that were booked and it wasn't anything I'd consider a slow day but it wasn't particularly hectic either.

[–]thereal_me 19 points20 points ago

Son , you do not know what power beautiful women hold over lonely men and their money.

[–]raka_defocus 7 points8 points ago

I've known dancers who bring in 3k a week dancing only no sex. I'd imagine people are paying more for sex and she has more than 1 girl working. I believe her. If she's taking 30% per girl and the "show up" fee is a few hundred dollars it's not that implausible.

[–]gamesformeh 24 points25 points ago

It is a company. She is talking about the profit the company makes, not necessarily how much she makes in a year.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 25 points26 points ago

^ This is true

[–]Fuqwon 9 points10 points ago

I think she was pretty clear in stating that that's what she made after her expenses.

[–]NonViolentWar 2 points3 points ago

That threw me off as well. Was that figure before or after overhead?

[–]salgat 1 point2 points ago

Revenue is total income, profit is what is left over after all expenses, which in this case means $360,000 a year.

[–]deepit6431 7 points8 points ago

Verification?

[–]FlimFlamStan 7 points8 points ago

When a guy requests a "girl friend experience" is he forced to watch the Kardashian's reality show and then get turned down for sex or is it the other way around?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 10 points11 points ago

It can go either way and is then followed by nagging because she doesn't think he finds her attractive anymore.

[–]ardobbs 7 points8 points ago

Where do you run this service out of?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 12 points13 points ago

I run the business end out of my home. All my tax documents, contracts, etc. are stored in a home office. I also have three residential (two rental apartments and a rental house) locations that the girls can use for their dates.

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[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 17 points18 points ago

Yes. I am 25.

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[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 13 points14 points ago

I'd recommend theeroticreview.com or backpage.com or eros.com. Personally I advertise on all three of those sites.

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[–]ThrowAndHit 3 points4 points ago

You call and talk to the girl and normally use code words that are popular amongst hobbyist (ex. GFE, PSE, Greek, Russian, CIM, etc). Then they'll give you a rate based on time, not acts performed. Then you figure out incall or outcall (their place or yours). Then you meet up, exchange pleasantries and get it on.

[–]kwassa1 1 point2 points ago

So what is the benefit for an escort of using you, if websites like that are available? Anyone can snap some photos and put up an ad. What value do you add to the transaction?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

It interjects a little bit of space into the relationship between the girl and the client. She doesn't know his last name, he doesn't know her real name at all, and they don't have each others' phone numbers. So clients can't start stalking the girls, girls can't try to blackmail the clients. Plus, because I have client bases in four cities, the girls can travel and get more bookings through me.

[–]robotusson 4 points5 points ago

what are some common misconceptions about an escort service?

do your friends and family know about your profession?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 15 points16 points ago

I don't have a lot of family at this point in my life (unless you count those distant relatives you've only talked to a few times when you were a kid). I try to be as open as possible with my friends (and some of them were made through the industry) but there are some people/social circles I don't feel comfortable sharing that information with.

Common misconceptions? It's just generally not as shady as people believe it is. I'm sure I'm biased but I think that it can be very rewarding work, especially when the clients call me and express gratitude for bringing them out of a depression or letting them connect with someone after being lonely for a long period of time.

[–]robotusson 2 points3 points ago

let's pretend tomorrow prostitution, "massage parlours", escort services and everything that falls underneath that golf umbrella is legal.

what do you think would be the biggest change to your profession besides the taxation?

how do you think this would affect relationships and initial courtship in dating?

what is your favourite novel?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 5 points6 points ago

  1. I think we would get a whole lot busier. I really hope it doesn't happen though, there would probably be an increase in supply and then I wouldn't be making nearly as much!
  2. Honestly? As far as dating go I don't think it would be affected. We don't get a lot of younger clients and, even if there wasn't such a stigma against our industry, what guy would want to admit to having to pay a girl to spend time with him in any capacity?
  3. Anastasia by Vladimir Megre

[–]robotusson 6 points7 points ago

ever have a situation regarding refunds?

ps thank you for answering and this is a great AMA

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 10 points11 points ago

One time we had a girl who was so drunk for her date that she ended up throwing up in the bathroom for most of it. Definitely had to give a refund for that (Edit: I terminated my business relationship with her as well). If a girl is extremely late or doesn't show up, we give a discount on the next booking for wasting the client's time. One time we had a client show up for an appointment and didn't like the way the girl looked so he claimed he left something in his car and just didn't come back. We blacklisted him. There's all sorts of stuff that happens.

Thanks for the appreciation :-)

[–]thelandryhat 6 points7 points ago

why do most escorts decieve the client on their looks? Why can't a client turn down an escort after seeing her? it seems fair to me, despite the cost risk to you

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Honestly, I've never been a fan of "false advertising". I've always been confident enough in myself and in my girls that we post up to date photos on our site. In fact, I pay a professional photographer to take photos of the girls if they don't have a portfolio. I have absolutely no problem with a client turning down an escort after meeting her. However, her photos on the site were accurate so I'm not sure why that happened. And he wouldn't have gotten blacklisted if he hadn't just ditched her without explanation.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

Are any of your clients actually attractive people, who are just looking for something without any commitment? Or are they all unattractive, forever alone, men?

Also, if so, does their appearance make a difference to your performance and enjoyment, or is it all business either way?

Edit: I do suppose my questions are contingent on the assumption that you also provide escort services yourself.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Some of our clients absolutely are attractive people. Occasionally the girls fight over them a little bit. The appearance can make a difference, but it isn't usually a significant one. A girl will definitely enjoy the date more if a client is well-groomed and respectful as opposed to reeking and rude. And I really do believe this affects performance (how could it not?)

[–]Persica 15 points16 points ago

Will you be my girlfriend?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 24 points25 points ago

Haha I'm sorry but I already have one _^

[–]graffplaysgod 85 points86 points ago

she can come too.

[–]HankThunder 11 points12 points ago

twas a master stroke.

[–]Persica 1 point2 points ago

They have a saying in Korea, "even if there's a goalie, you can still score" + I'll love you for who you are, i like long walks on the beach and I have an Australian accent.

Pleeease?

[–]Shinob1 5 points6 points ago

Do you require your girls to submit medical records showing that they don't have an STD? What does 100 usd buy me? How does one become a madam? Are you willing to offer some proof?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 2 points3 points ago

No, I don't require my girls to do that. However, I am close with all of them and do know that they have testing done every month. As far as becoming the owner of an escort service, it's simply a matter of networking and perseverance (kind of like getting into any other business I suppose). I would be more than happy to offer proof to mods.

[–]rabbitlion 10 points11 points ago

This isn't a great idea as your company grows (25 girls seems too large for it already). At the very least you should make it an official rule even if you don't actively enforce it.

[–]MontereyJack144 4 points5 points ago

You said your company has a presence in three cities, but you rely on your relationship with the girls to make sure they don't have any STD's? That's wildly irresponsible on your part and I would recommend changing your policy quickly, not just for your customer's sake but for your own. If I were a customer and this got out...I'd probably take my business elsewhere.

[–]freef 2 points3 points ago

Don't you think thats wildly irresponsible on your part? you may be very close with your employees but they still need an income and are put in a position where they may need to lie. This model could contribute to the spread of gonhosyphilherpaAIDS or other sexually transmitted diseases. Is that really not one of your concerns? And has anyone verified this AMA yet?

[–]throwaway5899 1 point2 points ago

Agreed. I don't think all the girls would tell if they even did catch an STD, because it would jeopardize their income.

[–]darkestdayz 1 point2 points ago

By answering my questions, you have given me all the proof that I need.

[–]thelandryhat 4 points5 points ago

wow. your business is dirty as fuck then. just because you know the girls well doesn't mean a few don't have some anal warts and gonareha

[–]Dry_martini_SHAKEN 1 point2 points ago

gonorrhea*

[–]thelandryhat 1 point2 points ago

thank you kind person for that spelling correction. Spelling is not my strong point anymore even though I was a spelling bee champ in 4th grade. Spell checks ruined me, fine sir. Ruined me

[–]Dry_martini_SHAKEN 4 points5 points ago

LQL. It happens. That's one of the few things outside of your/you're that bothers me, as I was in a punk band whose sole theme was venereal disease........

Yeah....

[–]thelandryhat 1 point2 points ago

awesome. that is hilarious. Upvotes for you please. tons of them

[–]bwana_singsong 4 points5 points ago

how much do you have to worry about the police?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

That's a complicated question. What we're doing is legal in the state I'm in, as long as we stress that the girls are being paid a flat rate for their time (because they are). It's possible that law enforcement would try to book an appointment and then sort of "entrap" the girls by trying to get them to say something that would actually make the date illegal. We are very careful to do screening to make sure that we don't book with anyone involved in law enforcement and if the girls feel uncomfortable at any time, they can just leave the date. I've only had one incident so far with one of my girls getting arrested and even then the charges were dropped afterwards.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

is there anything you specifically screen for?

[–]rabbitlion 2 points3 points ago

So basically prostitution is illegal in your state, but you get around it using the "escort loophole" where they pay for a date and not for sex. Since you are perfectly aware that 100% or close of the dates involve sex and that clients would never pay anywhere near those rates for just a date, I'm not sure that this is a viable defense in court.

I don't really mind as prostitution should be legal, but be careful. If they go after you it's not really gonna be from a bust, it's gonna be from long-term evidence collecting from the shadows.

[–]RedditBlueit 1 point2 points ago

Which is probably why her first hires where her lawyer and accountant...

[–]kintu 2 points3 points ago

website?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 12 points13 points ago

Haha sorry, drawing a ton of attention to my business in this manner would be super irresponsible. Definitely want to keep my girls safe so I'll be remaining anonymous :-)

[–]kintu 4 points5 points ago

You did say legal right?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

I wish to warn you that Reddit/Conde Naste freely give information to the feds upon request.

Be careful.

Quack.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thanks for the warning. I'm going to discuss with mods whether there is a discreet way to verify.

[–]yodeling-fool 6 points7 points ago

Your business seems like like the ideal form of prostitution - women are working there because they make more money than they could earn elsewhere and are not forced or coerced due to abusive relationships or desperate poverty.

Do you know about the backgrounds of the women who work for your agency? History of molestation and abuse? Is this something they really want to do? How can a client know if the escort is there by choice or a by circumstance and coersion?

I admit to being conflicted in that I do not morally care what consenting adults do but most studies about prostitution (including legalized as in Nevada) indicate that the majority of prostitutes have been abused, molested and raped in their youth and often suffer from PTSD. The sites you mentioned advertising are known for promoting underaged prostitution.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

I have spoken with quite a few of my girls about their backgrounds, but it's not something that I feel I absolutely need to know unless they want to volunteer the information (because wouldn't that be a violation in and of itself?). I have girls who grew up in very wealthy families and simply chose to make their own way in life after they graduated from college. I have a single mom who has a very good job as a health care provider but chooses to escort on the side. Some of the girls are from broken homes and have had rough lives and whatnot. But before I decide to work with a girl I try really hard to make sure that she's not in a situation that would force her into this business because she doesn't know what else to do. That's not what I want to be about. Also, if I find out that any of my girls are involved with drugs I terminate the business relationship. I don't need that kind of illegality bringing my legit business down.

[–]what_os 86 points87 points ago

What Operating System(s) do you run in your computer(s)?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 9 points10 points ago

Windows 7

[–]what_os 9 points10 points ago

Thank you.

[–]diosakio 10 points11 points ago

I'm at the point now where the first thing I do in AMAs is look for you. And I giggle every time.

[–]what_os 9 points10 points ago

Thank you.

[–]bastardman 0 points1 point ago

This is a serious question which I would also like to know the answer of.

[–]Fuqwon 35 points36 points ago

[–]michelliguess 2 points3 points ago

What country does this take place in? How do you get people to join your business? Have there been any violent situations?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 4 points5 points ago

I'm in the US. I answered a question about recruiting already so here's a copy/paste on how we do it: Mostly by word of mouth. If we get a client who has seen a particularly good escort in the past and he refers her to us and she starts using us to book her clients, we give the referring client a discount. So it encourages our clients to spread word among other girls they see in the industry. If the girls have friends in the industry they let them know about us. I'm really proud of my business and I've had a lot of girls come to me to be a part of it, so I think that shows that I'm doing something right that I don't need to really aggressively recruit. As for violence, my business has only been established for about a year but I haven't run into any situations that have escalated above a client refusing to leave and a girl having to give me a call. If the girls run into any sort of sticky situation they do have the ability to call the police.

[–]r3dn1t3 2 points3 points ago

How is the money worked out? What percentage do you take?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

The girls are paid a flat rate for their time and they set that rate. I get a flat rate for booking them appointments of different lengths. If I book a girl a half hour appointment, I get x. An hour, I get 2x. And so on. The amount is the same for every girl, regardless of how much she charges (because some girls do charge more than others). I also charge them a small fee if they decide to use one of my residential locations.

[–]MegaBaller 0 points1 point ago

What percentage do you take?

[–]readysteadystop 2 points3 points ago

It's not a percentage. She takes a flat rate based on the time booked. Hypothetical: If Girl A is booked for $50 for 30 minutes, Rufus gets $15. If Girl B is booked for $80 for 30 minutes, Rufus still gets $15. If Girl A is booked for $100 for 60 minutes, Rufus gets $30... etc. Make sense?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

I don't get a "percentage"

[–]oraq 2 points3 points ago

In your estimation, would you say most of your employees are capable of forming healthy realtionships outside of work or are they "emotionally damaged" as we are led to believe by popular culture?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 9 points10 points ago

That's a very hard question to answer because the girls are just like everyone else - their relationships and ability to have relationships vary wildly depending on their personalities. I have some girls who are parents. Some are married. Others have boyfriends. Some are single. Some of the significant others know about their work. Some don't. If the girls are emotionally damaged at all it's because they're people with crappy experiences or upbringings or personalities. Not because they're escorts.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

Not that i'm particularly interested in hounding you on this point, but I believe you misunderstood part of the premise:

If the girls are emotionally damaged at all it's because they're people with crappy experiences or upbringings or personalities. Not because they're escorts.

I believe the premise of the question was: are emotionally damaged people likelier to become escorts, not vice versa.

[–]jshrod09 2 points3 points ago

being as inexperienced in this as i am, how does the money work exactly? like are premiums charged for certain activities or is it just an hourly rate no matter what goes down?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 7 points8 points ago

Hourly rate no matter what goes down, that's how we stay legal

[–]Musicman425 2 points3 points ago

I assume cash tips can work for additional "requests", and that is likely between the girl and client.

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

There is tipping that occurs at the end of the appointment, but there is absolutely no upselling occurring between the girl and the client. If he requests something and she turns it down or doesn't turn it down, it has absolutely nothing to do with the financial aspects of the date.

[–]bowerjack 1 point2 points ago

which is the reason the OP has a flat rate booking structure with the girls, so they don't have to hide their tips from her.

[–]watersign 2 points3 points ago

what's the youngest client you've had? (im not talking about just you personally, just in general from your experiences)

If/when you settle down when you're older..will you tell your SO about your past?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

We've had a 21 year old client (his Uncle arranged and paid for the date but we made sure that the client knew about it and consented...even I thought that was a little bizarre). I currently do have a rather serious SO and she knows about my past as well as my business.

[–]watersign 3 points4 points ago

Cool. Do any of your girls ever find the clients attractive??

Do they enjoy the sexual part of it?

I'm a guy but I can't imagine having to have sex with girls im not attracted too...so it must be weird for a girl..right?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 3 points4 points ago

Oh absolutely. A client will often book with us a few times and choose different girls every appointment. Sometimes the girls try to persuade the client not to go back to the other's that he's seen or just see her for the future (it does cause some drama) if he's particularly attractive or just a good client/date/tipper. As far as the sexual aspect goes, it varies greatly. Depends on the girl, the amount of appointments she's had that day, the client, the connection, all sorts of things. If you really think about it, it's not like she has to. This is something she is choosing to do, but I get what you're asking. I think that the girls appreciate it on a certain level that it's hard for people who've never been in the industry to understand.

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What rates do you charge? Looking for specific numbers

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 2 points3 points ago

Are you asking about the rates the girls charge? It varies from girl to girl but generally half an hour is 200+, an hour is 250+, 90 minutes is 350+, 2 hrs is 500+. Anything beyond that is by request only.

[–]i_am_Kevin 7 points8 points ago

How do you recruit escorts?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 14 points15 points ago

Mostly word of mouth. If we get a client who has seen a particularly good escort in the past and he refers her to us and she starts using us to book her clients, we give the referring client a discount. So it encourages our clients to spread word among other girls they see in the industry. If the girls have friends in the industry they let them know about us. I'm really proud of my business and I've had a lot of girls come to me to be a part of it, so I think that shows that I'm doing something right that I don't need to really aggressively recruit.

[–]skahl000 6 points7 points ago

Male or female escorts?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 9 points10 points ago

All female right now, but I've been considering reaching out to male escorts to see if they'd be interested in being part of our team.

[–]FoolishClownfish 31 points32 points ago

Guys, be careful. I imagine she is looking for male escorts for male clients...

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 38 points39 points ago

Hahaha not as foolish as you'd have everyone believe, huh clownfish?

[–]ThrowAndHit 8 points9 points ago

Not that it makes it any better, but there was a user in another thread who was a gay escort. He said he had been working for months and has yet to be the 'catcher'. Also said it's mostly married men who want to take a wiener up their Hershey highway.

[–]SabineLavine 11 points12 points ago

I love that guys have the fantasy that there are women out there paying for sex.

[–]HiImDan 1 point2 points ago

There is a show about them Gigalos. Don't think this is common though.

[–]PalmerSmith 3 points4 points ago

Are there woman who pay for male escorts? Are there non-homo clientele for male escorts? Serious question. Thanks.

[–]clmddy 5 points6 points ago

I can't give you a straight (no pun intended) answer. (Ok, I lied, that was totally intended.)
However, in my experience, any odd thing one can imagine someone doing sexually, has fans and participants. So yes, there are probably a few. But, I suspect, in this case, very very few.

[–]putitonice 2 points3 points ago

Hit me up I got you.

[–]fishoilpills2 1 point2 points ago

How would you scout them out/select them?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 18 points19 points ago

I'm still working on that process. I need to find men who are comfortable with the idea that their clients will most likely be other men. Sorry to disrupt any fantasies that were happening by straight male redditors :-P

[–]NonViolentWar 3 points4 points ago

This brings up an interesting point. Is there really no market for straight male escorts in large cities? Surely women can be just as lonely as men on occasion.

[–]Fuego_Fiero 2 points3 points ago

They even made a Rob Schneider movie about it!

[–]thereal_me 1 point2 points ago

This is true. There has been at least one AMA from a former M4F escort.

[–]Aeterne 2 points3 points ago

Do you have a link to that?

[–]AssViolator 4 points5 points ago

Do you enjoy anal sex?

[–]Butts_or_Boobs 9 points10 points ago

Butts or boobs?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 17 points18 points ago

Butts, personally.

[–]Persica 5 points6 points ago

Why can't we have both?

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[–]Dystopiated 3 points4 points ago

I was recently offered a position as an escort with a local escort agency. I'm a 22 year old male.

If I take it up, I'm allowed to state my sexuality and only have clients based around that (i'm heterosexual)... I've no idea what's involved in being an escort though - let alone a male escort.

What would I be getting myself into?

[–]GiraffeAnd3quarters 8 points9 points ago

Trannys' butts.

[–]cardenaldana 1 point2 points ago

Is what you do quite similar to the show 'Secret diary of a call girl'?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 6 points7 points ago

I've never seen it! I imagine it's been glamorized or at least taken to the extreme for entertainment purposes so my life might be similar, but a lot more boring.

[–]kintu 1 point2 points ago

How can I get your services? Can I select the girls beforehand?

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[–]ShyneBox 1 point2 points ago

How can you determine if you are interested in sex, or just the company? Also, does the flat rate assume sex, or does that cost more?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

Can you tell us a bit about logistics of management and how you keep things private and safe at the same time?

[–]ktr0 1 point2 points ago

hi, i asked in that other ama, almost the same question, but regarding your current position in this business, perhaps you have another point of view. * 1) do you have direct contact with your clients or are you just sitting at home and organize the "meetings" via mail and phone? * 2) and if you have direct contact: what happens if you meet this client outside of your job, like a private visit in a restaurant, are you ignoring him - or are you handling this situation like coincidental meeting of two business partners?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

I have a program in my service that allows clients to become registered members on my website (after making a certain amount of bookings as well as fulfilling other qualifications). If they're members they do get some discounts as well as invites to events/parties that I host. So I have met quite a few of them in person and have had some come to my home. Plus some of the clients have been great as far as being there for me should I need any of the services they provide (which is crazy useful when you have clients who are doctors and dentists). When I do meet the clients that I have standing friendships with we simply act like friends, because that's what we are.

[–]movshare 1 point2 points ago

What is the best way to approach an escort to know if she is real or a police decoy?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Definitely try to see if she has a legit website and if she has reviews on theeroticreview. And don't say stupid shit; always remember that you are just paying her for her time. Whatever happens during that time is between two consenting adults.

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[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Right...your friend...yea... ;-)

[–]AdonisChrist 1 point2 points ago

How much did you have to invest in this to get off the ground?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Oh god, I don't even know. It was a very long arduous process that involved a lot of trial and error over the course of a few months (since it's not like there's a how-to-for-dummies at the local bookstore for this). It was a significant amount of money, especially for the lawyer's time. Really though, it was all the time I put into that really makes me headachey just thinking about.

[–]Dusty_Star 1 point2 points ago

Would you ever recommend escorting as a job?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Yes, I think that escorting can be a really good job for some people. Especially if you're able to make a good connection with strangers and really appreciate the fact that you're providing a sort of therapy to some of the clients.

[–]Barry_McCockiner 1 point2 points ago

How did you start this thing up? I'm assuming you've 'been in the industry'?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

Yes, I was on the working side of the industry and it wasn't something I wanted to do for years and years (and it's not really feasible to expect to be able to keep the career going to retirement). So I took what I knew about it and came over to the business end of things.

[–]TheBelt 1 point2 points ago

I have always been skeptical about this sort of business. I travel a lot and am what I consider to be an up and coming alcoholic. So the concept of company for an evening with out the assistance of craigslist has crossed my mind from time to time. How does one recognize a legitimate escort service from some d-bag with a Glock in the back of their shorts...? What part of the country are you located in and what do you consider to be "standard rates" for the area?

[–]lefty68 1 point2 points ago

Do you ever have problems with clients wanting to do drugs on a date? Do you have a policy about that?

[–]spiceman17 1 point2 points ago

Are you in NY???? Where are you??

[–]Rose375 2 points3 points ago

Can I work for you?

[–]MindlessDream 3 points4 points ago

I'm 12 and what is this?

[–]DirtPile 2 points3 points ago

That's what she said.

[–]srikanth94 1 point2 points ago

PROOF?

[–]and181377 1 point2 points ago

I have a piggyback riding fetish, how many of your girls could do that with me?

[–]rufusthebookthief[S] 1 point2 points ago

It's not the strangest fetish I've heard, I'm sure I could find at least a few who would be ok with setting up a date with you.

[–]The_Ice_Cream_Guy 1 point2 points ago

What's your favorite ice cream flavor?