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Google Mail now supports VoIP. Should Skype be worried? (techgoo.net)
submitted 1 year ago by TechGoo
[–]alexgdorman 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago
I say yes because if you have a Google Voice number you can set it to ring your gmail voip. So as long as you have a laptop, headset, wifi and you leave your gmail tab open you have free unlimited calling. Incoming and outgoing. Google might even have a desktop app that supports voip, but I haven't looked into it yet.
tl;dr: Skype costs money to get a number that you can call to and from, Google does not.
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[–]the2ndblahmonster 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago
Yes, yes we are, in more ways than most people here can imagine.
[–]powercow -9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago
bah
yeah I can agree somewhat but we are going to disagree as well.
Most modern nations have faster net, despite we created it.
In the UK, you can get the new deal streak droid phone for free, with a $25 per month truly unlimited data contract. $35 a month is you want unlimited voice.
[–]the2ndblahmonster 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
35 dollars or pounds?
[–]powercow -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
doesnt really matter, kicks our ass. The site I read it on says dollars, but even pounds it is $55 for unlimited voice and data along with a free phone.
spin it how you want.
[–]SungTongs 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Sprint - $69/month - Unlimited Data/Messaging/Voice.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Sprint - $30/month - Unlimited Data/Messaging + 550 minutes
I'd say SERO is more than comparable to international rates.
[–]Fiero 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
And it's also not an available plan any more, you have to have someone transfer a line to you, or maintain one if you signed up for it when it was available.
Also, with Sprint, you're on CDMA, so if you ever leave the U.S., you're paying ridiculous roaming fees.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Yeah, I'm glad I got my SERO plan while it was still available. I don't think I'll ever give this thing up. Regardless, their EPRP plans are still better than any other US carrier at double the price of SERO.
Also, with Sprint, you're on CDMA, so if you ever leave the U.S., you're paying ridiculous roaming fees
Uh... what? First off, CDMA is basically US/Canada only, so if you leave the US/Canada you won't be paying any roaming fees. Second, Sprint (and Verizon) have a ton of world phones that have both CDMA and unlocked GSM hardware, so you can go abroad and pay the same ridiculous roaming fees that US GSM carriers charge, or just get a local SIM card and pop it in without any of the hassles associated with SIM card-only (i.e., GSM) phones.
[–]the2ndblahmonster -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago
...and what's the UK's average population density?
[–]smew -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Can't be assed to check Wikipedia or the CIA factbook, can you?
[–]dirice87 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
but then you'd have to carry around something running year old software and bring a 5" screen up to your head every time you want to make a call.
[–]hans1193 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
However, we generally have breathable air and better teeth. There's ups and down to every place, but we have it pretty good in general here, at least those of us in the "can afford internet" category.
[–]rsynnott 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Confused about the breathable air thing. Is air outside the US generally unbreathable? I would have though, at least when compared to Europe, it would tend to be worse in the US due to the car-and-coal-plant culture.
The teeth thing is a myth.
[–]MolotovCat 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago*
For $45 you get unlimited voice and data with Cricket. That's still $10 cheaper than the UK.
Cricket is now national and shares cell towers. It has amazing coverage and the best prices in the world. (For the most part, I haven't checked EVERY country, just some of the larger ones.)
For cellular, we are privileged; what we're actually behind on his land-line internet.
Well... did you create it, now? If you actually look into the history of the Internet, and especially the world wide web, it becomes murkier; other culprits include the ITU, ISO, CERN and various others.
Of course, the reason that ISPs in the US are generally a bit shit is nothing to do with who created anything; it's because the government does not force competition through local loop unbundling like most European countries do, thus allowing regional monopolies.
[–]Sofiira 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
And Canadians . . . :D
[–]ravend13 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Not really. You can call Canada with the service, but I believe it's only available in the USA.
[–]impei 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
The call phone button in gmail works but google voice does not.
[–]Sofiira 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
My husband can call land lines in the US and Canada but to actually sign up with the service does not work. We both have accounts with Google but he's the only one that has the little call button - beta maybe?
[–]Foaric 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
And Canadians now!
[–]Avertr 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
There is no guarantee that Google will keep it free. They say "Calls to the U.S. and Canada will be free for at least the rest of the year" not that it will be free forever.
[–]powercow 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
yeah it's kind of hard to do it free. there are certain exchanges, especially in rural areas, that charge google(and every other phone company) an arm and a leg to send calls across.
you might remember google getting hell for it.
they argued they werent really a voip solution since google voice required a cell phone and they had no computer app.(not sure about that with gizmo but w/e).
google stopped blocking these numbers which opened them up to do this.
but really these exchanges tend to kill all free phone solutions that come to the pc.
It would be nice if they informed you in very clear terms and let you just accept you cant call certain rural areas and sex hotlines. Heck I probably dont know anyone there anyways.
but then when we are all voip, the rural areas will be shut out of phone service again and the gov will probably step in.
BUT YEAH long story short, I DO NOT SEE HOW GOOGLE CAN REMAIN FREE AFTER THE YEAR IS UP.
[–]rvqbl 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Just FYI, it is not only phone sex lines, but also the free conference calling services.
[–]outsider 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Google Voice does free conference calling.
I was talking more about the services where you have up to 20 people, maybe more, call into a number and have a conference call.
I know. I just thought I'd toss it out there that you can do that with Google Voice as well.
[–]specialk16 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Hmmm, I can actually call for free to the US and Canada and I'm in Costa Rica. Looks like calls to the US are still free even if you are overseas.
[–]koggelmander -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Google might even have a desktop app that supports voip
Google Talk has been available for years.
[–]the8thbit 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago
Right... but that's Google Talk to Google Talk. It's not Google Talk to any phone in north America.
[–]shatteredjack -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but I just can't take it anymore.
VoIP does not mean 'Phone calls to the PSTN'. VoIP has been available for 15 years.
Skype is a trivial product does nothing particularly innovative. SkypeOut's gateway to the phone network is more useful, but is a fee-based service. Why can people not understand the difference?
[–]Bjartr 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
Because 'Phone calls to the PSTN' is still VoIP 'till it hits the PSTN and VoIP is easier to say and type.
[–]OriginalSyn 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
so, Phone calls to the PSTN Via VoIP What's so hard about PCttPVV it rolls off the tongue.
[–]derram 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I don't know what a PSTN is.
Edit: And now I do. All in less than a minute!
[–]haluter 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
No, I meant Google Talk. Been using it for years to voip to my family all over the world.
[–]PlasmaWhore 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago
I have gmail and google voice, but I don't see a VoIP service in either of them. Where is it?
[–]mason092 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Yep, it just takes a while for the new features to roll out.
[–]derram 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I found out because of a pop-up in Gmail.
Came to Reddit and found rhis post!
[–]diamond 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Holy shit; even Scooby Do is a redditor now?
[–]cdm9002 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
It appeared on my account last night...gone today :(
[–]Bjartr 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
They started rolling it out yesterday (the old gmail acct I never use has it and the one I use daily doesn't, go figure)
[–]krizutch 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I would suspect they go in order if when you signed up. Most of Google's roll outs seem to happen that way.
[–]mitchellhislop 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Of my two gmail accounts, the one attached to the google voice number I use more (i have two) got the upgrade almost 24 hours earlier.
Also, my newer account was upgraded first.
[–]SuperficialJerk 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
You have to go to google.com/chat/voice and install the plugin.
[–]PlasmaWhore 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I did that. Now I just wait I guess.
[–]smhinsey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Make sure to turn chat on in the main gmail interface.
It is. I think it's because I'm currently in South Korea.
[–]aurochs 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Mine was in chat yesterday but disapeared this morning. Just go to google voice, click the "Call" button and change your phone to "google." Then a box in your google chat opens and you can hear the call.
[–]hughk 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Skype is pretty difficult to intercept and goes through most firewalls without problems and it works almost everywhere. For this reason it is also much loved by aid agencies who do not always want to be intercepted.
Until Google Voice breaks out of the North American continent, GMail's VoIP is nice, but Skype is better.
[–]buckX 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
It only goes through your firewall if you don't do egress filtering, which a properly configured firewall should.
[–]hughk 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
It is relatively hard to filter (although not impossible) and I have seen it go out of a major bank's firewall with full egress filtering as well as mandatory proxying for outgoing web access (so port 80 was also blocked).
[–]dmsean 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
That makes no sense. I highly doubt they had full egress filtering. Skype uses 80 and 443 from what I understand, and most places will have this open. It is very likely an IT admin at this bank felt the need to use Skype and opened the ports. Or there was a need for e-commerce (aka ssl, port 443)
If port 443 is open, then this is one way to block Skype: http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~salman/skype/BlockingSkype_corp.pdf
[–]buckX 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Actually, skype uses a crazy number of high numbered ports, much like the p2p program it's based off of, kazaa. You can restrict it to pass through only 443, but it's not actually SSL traffic, so the firewall will stop it if it does protocol inspection. Interestingly enough, the call quality drops a lot when you run it through a single port.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
much like the p2p program it's based off of, kazaa.
Can you elaborate on this at all? How is Kazaa related to Skype at all?
I hate to be that guy but, citation?
[–]SammyD1st 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
How is Kazaa related to Skype at all?
The same dudes invented both: Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis. Case study.
[–]buckX 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype#History
It's not directly off the kazaa code as far as I know, but its lineage is there.
[–]hughk 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
First, port 80 was blocked. You could only get out via the proxy. As I said, this was a bank so there were many additional layers. However 443 would have been left open as we had connections to external data providers.
At the time, not as much was known about the specifics of blocking Skype (the paper you mentioned was recent then), but even now many places do not block it successfully and most hotels do not.
Btw, it is unlikely that the admins would have left it open deliberately. Firewall exceptions needed the personal signoff (with justification) of the CIO.
[–]bamfb2 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Does anyone know about the retention/recording of calls. Google normally captures almost all available data. I was under the impression that Skype calls were not captured/recording and hence more secure.
I wonder what the differences in security are between these two services.
[–]Eggby 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Skype works when my college's internet is screwed up. And Left 4 Dead 2. I love any program that lets my play games or talk to my friends even if the internet is "down".
Use alternate DNS servers like: Google's open DNS 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 or OpenDNS DNS: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
If you get stuck with a bad DNS server you can't do much with domain names but services which use IP addresses will tend to continue working (or for which you have a HOSTS entry.
[–]Z80 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Skype is pretty difficult to intercept and goes through most firewalls
So, how countries like UAE are able blocking it?
It is possible, but you have to be really anal about deep-packet inspection which costs a lot of performance.
[–]tso 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
now to turn that gizmo purchase into a SIP gateway.
wonder how long it takes someone to hack together a phone box.
[–]eldridgea 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Not long. :-) http://ezaptechnology.com/EZap_Technology/EZap_Phone.html
[–]neotoy 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago
In the age of whores I feel like showing a little loyalty. Skype has been rocking on my machine for years now, if it ain't broke don't fix it?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago
Becuase Google gives you a free actual phone number that people can call you on? Skype charges for that.
[–]chiphead2332 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Well, I've had gmail for what, 6 years? Certainly longer than I've used Skype. Plus it's not like you need to ditch Skype, it's just... there.
[–]greyjay 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Skype got in bed with Verizon. Their phone app is for iPhones only OR Verizon Blackberry's. Fuck them.
While I also have Skype open all day, I am going to use the hell out of GVoice calling. Why, you may ask?
easy: My google voice is my work line. I can make calls for free. Cant do that with skype.
[–]THEMACGOD 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
EVERYONE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT EVERYTHING.
[–]curiouslystrongmints 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago
Nice try, mainstream media and the internet.
[–]THEMACGOD 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
DAMMIT.
[–]Virigoth 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Google = Skynet?!?!?! Someone call the governator!
[–]psilokan 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
But he works for skynet!
[–]CINAPTNOD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Yep
[–]rboymtj 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I pay $2.99/mo. for Skype unlimited calling but it doesn't give you a phone number for people to call you. Well, you can buy one, but it's kind of pricey. If I can do the same think with gmail and have people call me back on my google voice # I'm definitely getting rid of my Skype subscription. I don't do many Skype to Skype calls, and if I do it's a family member calling me on my cell phone to get on Skype.
[–]twodayslate 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I want a desktop app. That would be wonderful!
I would settle for touch tone interfaces working.
[–]neolduser 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
This is not google's end game. This is what's going to happen next and yes skype should be afraid but more than that every tele-communications firm should be quaking in their boots.
Google will release an api to use gvoice voip in android and suddenly voice plans are a thing of the past. All data. The future is bright my friends. Now if only someone would sell a cheap data plan...
This has the potential to be one of the most disruptive technologies in recent memory.
[–]g2g079 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Is there any sort of application I can run in the background to accept calls or am I expected to keep gmail open?
[–]c4g 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
In Chrome do an "Application Shortcut".
[–]g2g079 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I did this with firebug but it is just not the same.
Most people I know do that already.
[–]ih8evilstuff 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Why keep Gmail open when there are browser plugins that check your inbox for you?
I want something that doesn't require me to have a browser Windows open and that will ring when I have a call. I'm talking about being able to use as a full VOIP application. Does Google talk have lan line calling yet?
[–]ih8evilstuff 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I said nothing about Google VoIP vs. Skype. I was just mentioning that you don't need to keep Gmail open to be constantly checking your mail.
Incidentally, why is keeping Skype running any better than keeping Firefox running?
[–]g2g079 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Because it can run from system, is more compact, and user friendly.
[–]buckX -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago
Most people you know don't use pop.
[–]honestbleeps 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
pop? really? people still use pop instead of imap?
[–]Albuyeh 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago*
Am I the only one who hasn't gotten a notification that Google can make phone calls? :(
Edit: got mine just a few hours ago :)
[–]Sgeo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Still waiting here :(
[–]jotaroh 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
It's only available for Americans.
[–]staiano 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Mostly true but a guy from Ireland said he say the 'call' thing in his gmail...
Hopefully google is getting moving on grand central for the world...
[–]burnblue 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
No. even if Google's is technically better, they will not win mindshare in such a way as to displace the strong brand of Skype. Google is quite good at engineering, but when it comes to connecting people they need a lot of work.
(Wave)
[–]s0nicfreak 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I was planning on using Skype when at home to save money. $3 for unlimited calling seemed pretty nice. But, oh wait, due to a deal with Verizon you can only use Skype on Android if you use Verizon now, and even then only through using actual minutes, not data nor wifi. So even if I did use Verizon, Skype would not save me anything. If they are going to make/keep bull deals like they did with Verizon, then yes, they should be worried.
[–]zorak8me 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I find out about this the DAY I buy a year's worth of service from Skype. I'm telling myself it's about loyalty...
[–]detaer 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The freaking clecs should be worried. They don't even understand that google is about to eat their low end residential POTS business.
[–]P522 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago*
No matter which number you call, it reaches Wikipedia first!
[–]chrisskinr 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I keep getting "We're sorry we could not complete your call. Please try again later." I live in Chicago. I'm at work too, could there be firewall issues?
[–]Axiomatik 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
My coworker and I are looking for this functionality in gmail and seeing nothing. How is it done?
[–]derram -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Wait for it.
Gmail will let you know when it's ready.
Also: Refresh.
[–]lenbot 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Oh man I don't have it yet...WTF!?!?
[–]krizutch 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
So does anyone knowif these features will be available from my android phone to call other phones? More specifically how Long is it going to be until I can switch to an all data plan and drop my calling plan all together.
[–]InspectorJavert 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
So how do I link it to my google voice number?
Your gmail email should be your google voice login... No extra linking needed.
Yes, but a quick test with my cell phone shows the call from gmail is calling from a number other than my google voice number.
Oh wow. Stupid question but do you know the number that is showing up on the caller id? Do you have multiple google voice numbers?
I just tried it myself and outgoing calls work great but incoming calls never ring gmail...
edit: Also what if you call into your google voice number does gmail ring? What if you call the number that shows up on the caller id does that ring your gmail?
[–]NMSpaz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Link from the GV side. Go to voice settings and under the "phones" tab, check google chat. Then inbound calls will be routed to gmail and (I'm told but haven't tried) outbound calls will have your GV number posted.
I have a Google Voice number (which I use on my Android phone). I have free national calling through Gmail now? Or is there some hidden fee?
[–]staiano 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Nothing hidden but I suspect premium number like 900 or 976 would not be free.
When you make a call via gmail it shows a little 'free' icon or text to let you know.
[–]Fidodo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Yup, why would anyone install an application when they can do it over their browser now?
I don't feel bad for skype because I haven't seen them innovate in years.
[–]colinnwn 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Still requires a plugin to be installed
Oh, right. I totally forgot about that somehow...
[–]tallestred 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I'd prefer an application still frankly. Browser crashes happen, I just don't feel comfortable with a call being placed through some flash/javascript concoction. As it is plugins like flash regularly take 1GB of system ram totally on their own for me and I have to do things like end-process of the "plugin-container.exe" killing flash just to get control of my browser back. Sometimes it just gets unbearably slow and that's all I can do. So more things migrated to web-browser use? No thanks, sounds like disaster to me.
Related to this: I'm extremely looking forward to facebook chat support within MSN messenger soon, I'd like to shoot FB's in-browser chat in the face.
I don't really trust skype more than a browser. They aren't exactly the best, and my experience is that skype is pretty bloaty. (Also, I totally forgot that this actually requires a plugin, so it's probably simpler and more stable than flash) Personally, I haven't had a browser crash in a long time with modern browsers. I've lost control, but that's if a site was poorly implemented. If I were making a call I probably wouldn't be playing a flash game, and if it were important I'd just open gmail in chrome and browse with firefox.
Also, why are you using MSN? Dear god. Use digsby, which already has FB chat, msn, yahoo, aim, g talk, icq, jabber, and myspace chat. Or use Pidgin which has Aim, Bonjour, GaduGadu, G talk, grouptalk, icq, irc, msn, myspace, QQ, SILC, SIMPLE, sametime, XMPP, Yahoo, Yahoo japan, and Zephyr. I don't know what half those things are, but if I need them they're there. Also, you can get a FB plugin for pidgin, but it was buggy the last time I tried it (it might be better now).
I'm already using google voice to have it call my cellphone, and connect me directly to friends in Australia at two cents a minute. N ow I can do that using a laptop instead of a phone? I don't care. I'd rather use the phone.
Your opinion I guess though I would disagree from my view point. At home I get nothing bars for cell signal (any network, GSM, 3G, it's all worthless here at home). So phone though a computer? Fuck YES basically is the ONLY alternative to a copper land line for me. Considering I'm sitting in front of a windows box all day long that just makes it sweeter.
[–]Filmore 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Better links:
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/call-phones-from-gmail.html
http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
[–]toastyghost 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
yes
[–]wardrox 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
Big elephants can always understand small elephants. Because.
[–]k8tek -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago
I have been using Google Voice for months now. I can call anybody in the United States and Canada for free. I love how it integrates with my Android phone and intercepts international calls.
[–]furless -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Yes, Skype should be worried, but not (yet) worried sick.
Google has enough weight to become a challenger in any market it enters, but Skype has its own First Mover advantages. It has:
Currently, Google seems to be entering this tussle somewhat in the guise of yet another VoIP provider, with prices that are okay but not rock-bottom. (Granted, if Google can provide better quality calls at slightly higher prices, this could be acceptable.) Once, I would have looked at this move as a far greater threat, but Google's profound failure with wave shows that it too has feet of clay.
This looks a lot more serious than Wave - integration in Gmail and more money being poured into it.
[–]Vithar 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The big difference that I expect to see is Android. Skype is playing a cat and mouse game with developers and support on android apps. It works for a while and its like they discover some app using skype, and they break it, then some other app does it, ect, ect... I have gone through 3 different skype apps, and I gave up after the last one stopped working.
Now if Google puts VoIP on android phones, that will be huge.
[–]ScornForSega 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
hardware products using Skype technology
Massive failure in this category. For months, I was looking for a whole house Skype solution on linux. Apparently, it exists.... if you run FC3. I was willing to pay for Skype-in, Skype-out, and Skype-pro, but I am not willing to pay for a windows license.
If Google can sell me a box that will integrate Google VOIP into my house (and provide the +48v to run POTS phones), I'll buy it tomorrow.
[–]ScornForSega 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
It does, thanks.
I just ordered an unlocked version of a similar phone adapter. Once that gets here, I'll get to play with SIP trunking and hopefully get a workable with with google voice forwarded to a sip provider.
[–]xyroclast -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago
No, because who the fuck goes to their email to talk on the phone? Google is out of touch with how people use things
[–]teddyrux 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
You sir, are an ignoramus. 1) Lots of people have gmail as their homepage. Will you open your browser to make a phone call vs will you open skype to make a phone call? Not much of a difference. 2) Right now, it's free, it's easy, and the quality is high. 3) Google is far from out of touch with 'how people use things', not to mention that Google has changed how we use a lot of things if you think about the evolution of search in the last decade. They're centralizing and simplifying.
[–]derram 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
You just made me go through a list of every search engine I've ever used.
I kinda miss hotbot and askjeeves.
*sniff* What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen shallow? *sniff*
Oh hey, Lycos still exists!
Pardon me...
I seem to have something in my eye...
Hotbot was great for find mp3's back in the day.
[–]xyroclast 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Google wave. Google buzz. Any questions?
[–]teddyrux -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
You really expect a company to not experiment just because it might fail? Come on, you're being entirely unrealistic.
[–]fred_in_bed 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I think the point is that google is trying to form how we do things. This potentially gets people to have their browser (and gmail) open all day, everyday. More browser > more google > more ad $. This is google's strategy. From Android to Chrome to ChomeOS.
[–]curiouslystrongmints -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Who the fuck puts their telephone in their pocket?! Mine is at home where it belongs.
[–]SkylineDriver -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
LOL did you read that before you clicked 'SAVE' ???
[–]capshew -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago
WHO THE FUCK IS CALL PHONE?
[–][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 1 year ago
I say no because fuck you.
[–]ddixonr 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Wow. One month in, and so far you've contributed nicely to the reddit community. Man, if I had anything to do with your membership here, I would say, "NO, BECAUSE FUCK YOU." Go back to Digg, or 4chan, or wherever this bullshit is better tolerated.
Nice try, Microsoft.
all it takes is a username and password
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is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
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