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Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:25:16 -0700

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slinky317 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:01:04.727451-07:00-0700

This is what happens when you choose _T-Mobile_ as a primary carrier. Wait until they roll out on Verizon, and let them sell it in stores... sales will skyrocket.

colinnwn on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:47:23.923016-07:00-0700

I accept your point as far as scope of current customers, but T-Mobile has an unwarranted bad rep as a carrier. They are great as long as you are comfortable with good service in medium and large cities, and weaker service in the sparsely populated parts of western US. Heck I don't lose signal driving between Houston and Dallas. Their customer service is the best in the industry (know that is not saying much). They have an "unsupported phones" department that helped me hook up an unlocked AT&T Blackberry onto their system and get all the features working. They are quickly rolling out 3G in medium to large cities. On data plans they specifically say you get 10gig/mo and you are throttled to 2G speeds rather than most carriers that have an unpublished 5gig/mo limit and then you are at risk for being dropped from the service or charged more. Their rate plans are very good for most people, especially if go with the non-subsidized "Even More Plus" plans and buy a cellphone somewhere else besides their stores.

AmbitionOfPhilipJFry on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-11T10:38:08.454386-07:00-0700

Verizon is only 10G a month? Is that the 'unlimited' 3G option?

colinnwn on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-11T12:34:24.963281-07:00-0700

T-Mobile's data plan (not sure if they advertise it as unlimited) is 10gB/mo at 3G speed if available, and after that it drops to 2G speed for no additional charge for the rest of the month. Supposedly Verizon's "unlimited" 3G plan is 5gB/mo and every 1gB/mo after that is an additional $50 charge. http://slashdot.org/story/09/11/09/068255/Verizon-Droid-Tethering-Comes-At-a-Hefty-Price

slinky317 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:50:04.991121-07:00-0700

Agreed - they're a decent carrier but not the best. However, if you want to launch a phone to appeal to the masses and try to get good market-share, going though T-Mobile is a mistake. It happened that way with the G1, and now the Nexus One. I don't know why Google keeps going with them, unless they're obligated contractually.

FlyingBishop on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:13:32.395336-07:00-0700

If you're trying to level out the phone market and encourage competition, it makes sense to support lesser players and improve their reputation. Android phones are on every carrier, and Google doesn't really care about their flagship, just so overall the hardware is of consistent quality.

colinnwn on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:59:34.581738-07:00-0700

I think the more likely reason is T-Mobile is willing to work with Google to do new and different things the stronger incumbents like Verizon and AT&T wouldn't consider. Don't forget that even with Apple's cachet as the cool kid, and iPhone's raging success, the CEO of Verizon still goes around boasting about how they refused to accede to Apple's demands.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:35:49.091147-07:00-0700

T-Mobile is *way* more affordable than Verizon. And in my area at least (northeast Denver) has vastly better coverage.

slinky317 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:38:24.955685-07:00-0700

They're more affordable because they bill themselves as the cheap carrier. And you may have good coverage in your area, but T-Mobile struggles and struggles hard with good 3G coverage in most areas.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:40:42.375956-07:00-0700

Hey, I'm just saying, they don't get talked about much, but they really aren't a bad carrier. They currently have less 3G coverage than the other major carriers, but all indications are that they're expanding their coverage quite fast.

slinky317 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:45:32.606372-07:00-0700

I agree, but they're really not the right choice for a carrier if you're looking to launch a flagship phone and want a lot of market-share. Which is why I don't understand why Google picked them for both the G1 and the Nexus One.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:09:03.844789-07:00-0700

My guess would be that since they're *not* a flagship carrier, they were more likely to let Google dictate the terms?

skwigger on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:07:00.232726-07:00-0700

I like the droid more, if only for the physical keyboard.

otatop on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:54:12.524676-07:00-0700

The Droid's physical keyboard is pretty awful, and the Android keyboard works fairly well once you get used to it. I bought my Droid specifically for the keyboard, and haven't used it past the first couple of days.

hans1193 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T14:43:12.644520-07:00-0700

There are different versions of the droid out there, my wife and I actually have different ones... The keys on her keyboard are really flat and hard to use, mine are more raised and it works very well. I can really fly on that keyboard now.

jxmitchell on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T15:17:59.084481-07:00-0700

Same with the G1... the keyboard on the US version is different to the one on the UK version.

Fidodo on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T18:33:32.953687-07:00-0700

Considering this is Google and not Apple, so you actually have control over your phone, have they come out with swype for it yet? I'd like to know how well that works.

eduffy on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T19:36:03.428960-07:00-0700

Swype is sold only to OEMs. I've heard ShapeWriter is functionally equivalent to Swype, though. YMMV.

Fidodo on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T22:44:55.309331-07:00-0700

They should just sell it for $1 on the android app store. I'd buy it.

BennyG02 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-11T09:41:11.111993-07:00-0700

You can sign up for swype beta testing on their website or just download one of the early leaks that are out there.

cecilkorik on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T16:15:35.184130-07:00-0700

Yep. I'm still stuck with my G1 which is the only Android phone so far with a really good, staggered-layout keyboard. (Prove me wrong, reddit... please!) Looking forward to the Nexus Two, and hoping it has a good keyboard. The "leaked photos" I've seen so far haven't instilled confidence.

unclejimbo88 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T16:40:10.765559-07:00-0700

I really wish HTC would make a Nexus One specced phone, with a keyboard. If there's anything they do right, it's making a great qwerty.

funkstick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:26:33.280443-07:00-0700

yeah I agree, and offering carrier discounts for locking in a contract obviously drives sales. They need to come to AT&T or Verizon if they want to drive up market share.

AmbitionOfPhilipJFry on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-11T10:37:12.885170-07:00-0700

As soon as it comes to Verizon, I'm gonna get one.

CC440 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:40:25.682550-07:00-0700

I've honestly only ever met one person who had T-Mobile and it was during the height of the Sidekick craze. Maybe they have huge customer bases in the cities, but from what I've seen, they run a far 4th place.

svenM on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T07:06:56.480130-07:00-0700

Maybe if they sold it abroad it would sell better, I wanted to buy one, but my only option was to have it delivered to the UK and pick it up there, paying extra taxes etc. So now I will just buy the HTC desire as it is cheaper and sold here.

stillaftermath on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T07:38:42.088893-07:00-0700

Same hardware specs, SenseUI, trackpad instead of trackball. I'm not sure what you're missing by going with a Desire, really...?

dextroz on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:25:32.664895-07:00-0700

Fact that when Google comes out with the next iteration of Android, HTC will take 1 year to update Sense.

cloudsdrive on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:22:49.782460-07:00-0700

Exactly why I just bought the nexus one instead of waiting for htc's offerings. edit: although technically the nexus one is an htc offering...

unclejimbo88 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T16:43:20.153754-07:00-0700

I'm sure you can just slap a Nexus One rom on it, and the hackers are ahead of the OTA updates for pretty much everything.

svenM on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:16:44.202893-07:00-0700

as dextroz says the updates mainly.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:36:50.833514-07:00-0700

I'd consider SenseUI to be a negative for the Desire. The stock UI on the N1 is absolutely *gorgeous*. Not to mention that when the next version of Android comes out you'll probably have to wait for HTC to update SenseUI. :-(

derekaw on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:12:17.560918-07:00-0700

I see the Nexus One as a phone for the tech enthusiast, there is absolutely a market for these people with the Nexus One but the market will always be small compared to those who are not tech enthusiasts and want an easy to use smartphone.

tanguyr on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:29:52.235083-07:00-0700

bingo. I've got one. I love it, but i would never recommend it to someone who wasn't a geek. I'd probably send them to look at one of the new HTC android models coming out.

Vithar on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:35:22.701954-07:00-0700

I agree and disagree. I recommend them for anyone that wants a new top of the line phone. I think they work great fore some one who isn't a geek, they work at least as well or better than any other HTC android models. The reason I say I agree, is that I love my N1 also...

[deleted] on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:05:39.617627-07:00-0700

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TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:37:41.378354-07:00-0700

Monetarily your best choice is to get the TMobile Even More Plus plans (cheaper per month, but don't subsidize your phone) and by the phone at full price. The initial outlay for the phone *seems* high, but you'll save about a grand over the course of a two year contract.

colinnwn on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:03:34.637941-07:00-0700

Also, don't buy a phone at T-Mobile stores unless you really need their offer of 20 months interest free payments. Even then, credit card interest might be as cheap or cheaper. You can almost always find cheaper unlocked phones online. Last I looked they were selling Blackberry Pearls for $299, when you can get them new online for $150.

CC440 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:38:43.781047-07:00-0700

If Verizon doesn't have signal I know T-Mobile and Sprint won't and I highly doubt AT&T would either.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:34:27.367457-07:00-0700

Not necessarily true. At my house (near DIA in Denver), I get great voice connectivity and 3g data on T-mobile. When my brother visits, his Verizon phone can barely place a call unless he goes outside.

corduroy on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T20:27:04.645967-07:00-0700

Verizon must have ignored Colorado. My fiance's verizon phone had spotty coverage and my TMO phone had full bars in those same areas. She's enjoying her TMO coverage now.

timbro1 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:27:55.033928-07:00-0700

maybe if they sell it in Canada we can help out the numbers

ajwest on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:02:32.201881-07:00-0700

We always get nice things from Google after the fact. I'm sure we'll get it, it'll just be a really long time.

skydivingdutch on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:50:53.751080-07:00-0700

$500 is a lot to stomach for a phone.

ajehals on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:53:15.534857-07:00-0700

It's quite cheap for a smartphone.

cdawzrd on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:09:07.462627-07:00-0700

The point is, most sales will come from carrier-subsidized contract purchases, since only a minority of enthusiasts will want to shell out for the unlocked version.

ajehals on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:21:26.375873-07:00-0700

True, but given that the carrier-subsidized contract purchases when looking at handset costs are vastly higher than outright purchases and other outright pricing is higher or about on a par for something similar it is fair to suggest that it is fairly cheap, or at least on average for a phone. Personally I wouldn't buy a carrier-subsidized handset because the pricing is insane and depreciation makes it even less attractive, but obviously most people disagree, or in the every least are unable to pay for a handset upfront.

Vithar on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:32:20.984910-07:00-0700

I'm with you, I bought my Nexus One, and I use it with AT&T (edge is the fastest local speeds available). AT&T thinks I have an LG shine, and only charges me $20 for unlimited data, $5 messaging, $20 1000 min of talking (total of $45 a month). The service is about 3 years old, and I'm out of contract, they keep asking me if I want to upgrade to an iphone or blackberry since I use so much data, but I say, no I like my LG shine...

JonLatane on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:38:41.094528-07:00-0700

Maybe I’m mistaken, but as far as I know, carrier-subsidized phones don’t cost anything extra on your bill; they just require a contract commitment. I mean, I guess if you want to break contract it will end up costing you more, but generally it’s only a 2-year commitment, and at least on my carrier after those 2 years you can get another $150 off by committing for another 2 years. I don’t necessarily approve of the practice as it’s all about lock-in, but could you put some numbers together to actually show me how subsidized phones end up costing more? From what I can tell, it’s buy the phone for $500 and pay $X/mo for as long as you have it, or buy it for $200 and pay the same $X/mo for 2 years and as long as you have it after that.

noisebar on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T14:57:14.693414-07:00-0700

FYI, to buy a Tmobile subsidized Nexus One, you have to get the $80 plan while my current plan is $60. Over $20 (plus tax and other charges) per month over two years is much more than the price difference of $350.

ajehals on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T17:01:01.791650-07:00-0700

>Maybe I’m mistaken, but as far as I know, carrier-subsidized phones don’t cost anything extra on your bill; they just require a contract commitment. My plan costs me about £15 a month, if I had the same plan but with a handset and over 18 months on a contract it would more than double... So, I can buy a phone for £400, the equivalent of 8 months at £50pm, and then pay £15 for however long I want, or get a plan that costs me £50 a month for 25 monts and get a 'free' phone (and then continue paying £50 a month until I realise that there are cheaper options...). >I don’t necessarily approve of the practice as it’s all about lock-in, but could you put some numbers together to actually show me how subsidized phones end up costing more? I suppose it will depend on where you are and what plans are available to you, I get 300 minutes (to any network), 300 texts and 3Gb of data a month (and it's the UK so no incomming charges) for £15/m without a handset, it would cost significantly more than that to get a similar contract plus a handset.

brosps on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:20:54.397093-07:00-0700

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphone-reviews/ It's above average.

colinnwn on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:42:21.289581-07:00-0700

True, but the Nexus One's specs are above average too. It is cheaper than a brand new unlocked iPhone 3GS, and has twice the processor and upgradeable memory. Granted it is too bad Android doesn't have apps able to run off the SD card yet.

da_homonculus on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:00:11.651158-07:00-0700

>Granted it is too bad Android doesn't have apps able to run off the SD card yet. Being an owner of a Nexus One, this isn't really an issue. The apps are small in size, typically less than 2 MB. Also, if you really like having tons of apps, you can get a file managing app and save your more rarely used install files to your sd card. When you need the app, just pull up the file and install again, which takes seconds.

derekaw on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:10:35.827448-07:00-0700

That is not convenient. When you NEED an app you NEED it now.

alphabeat on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T19:07:57.759735-07:00-0700

Then da_homonculus' point stands as well. > save your more rarely used install files to your sd card

bluGill on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-10T20:50:42.906267-07:00-0700

There are only a few apps I **need**. I can go weeks without playing some of the games on my phone. I'll install them when I want them. Email, facebook, im, web browser, and so on: those remain installed all the time because I use them.

ajwest on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:59:16.176774-07:00-0700

Don't forget the OLED screen.

FlyingBishop on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:11:33.862774-07:00-0700

You only linked the locked versions. Unlocked: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphone-reviews/?filter=1101538_14336658_&tag=mncol;dir3 Nexus One is still high-end, but it is cheap compared to comparably specced phones.

ajehals on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:38:05.672651-07:00-0700

Most of those are locked to a network, the Nexus isn't... It seems about on par if you just look at unlocked phones.

lastchance on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:26:51.555333-07:00-0700

Despite it not being sold in Canada, if they want to sell more and have a fast & major impact on the marketplace, all they need to do is lower the price. Make it a loss leader with no contract, and everything changes. I'm buying gift phones for family members, and getting used iPhone 3G phones off Kijiji (family members just use WiFi and no data plans). What would have been better? A couple Nexus Ones. How long will it take my family members to "use up" their iPhones? Might take 5 years.

m-p-3 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:30:12.058086-07:00-0700

I'd get it if it was available in Canada :(

vsuontam on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:39:26.735433-07:00-0700

I'd get it too if it was available in Finland <:( -Santa Claus

Originate on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:08:43.085805-07:00-0700

Maybe if they didn't require me to change my price plan to one that is exactly the same, except $10 more expensive per month... I definitely would have already purchased one if it wasn't for that.

myopinionstinks on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T08:36:18.513193-07:00-0700

I think it was short-sided to not support native exchange server sync. They effectively cut out a large business sector market. I was going to purchase one until I learned of this lack of convenience feature.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T09:34:59.555428-07:00-0700

It comes out of the box with minimal exchange support (email and contacts only), but there are several third party apps on the market that offer complete full featured Exchange support.

myopinionstinks on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:30:54.938325-07:00-0700

Do you have links? I'm going to be upgrading on the 23rd to either a droid or nexus and have verizon as a carrier but NEED full exchange functionality.

TheBobMcCormick on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:38:42.467372-07:00-0700

These are a few I found in a couple of minutes of searching. There may be others. I haven't tried any of them. The built in email-only syncing is all that I actually need. I'm not exactly an exchange power user. :-) http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.moonrug.android http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.moxier.mail

Latch on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:22:28.016810-07:00-0700

I have bought (and still love) Nitrodesk's Touchdown. I had it before Android got Exchange support, and even when it did, I kept using Touchdown. I tried the built-in Exchange email for a few days, then went straight back to Touchdown. I can't remember what annoyances pushed me back to Touchdown, but I had no qualms about moving back. Well worth the license fee, IMHO. http://www.nitrodesk.com/

myopinionstinks on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:28:25.015514-07:00-0700

What is this "bought" you speak of?

Latch on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:40:01.637995-07:00-0700

Haha. I don't mind purchasing quality software if I'm going to use it every day. If it's all the same I'll go an open-source version of an app that does some function. If it's not, and I'll actually use the stuff every day, I buy it. Examples of this are Touchdown, Crossover Pro by Codeweavers, games on Steam....

myopinionstinks on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:00:00.992604-07:00-0700

Oh, yes. Totally agree. And IMO, Steam is the greatest form of DRM out there.

alphabeat on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T19:08:51.149801-07:00-0700

How much is it?

da_homonculus on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:02:19.976117-07:00-0700

Supposedly, the next version of the Nexus One will be an "Enterprise Edition." http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10746.html

myopinionstinks on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:22:41.580255-07:00-0700

Yea yea, I've been bitten by the hype about the N1 before ;)

noiserr on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:38:58.836529-07:00-0700

Exchange calendar support on the iPhone was a big deciding factor for me.

da_homonculus on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:04:49.837736-07:00-0700

I think the main problem with Nexus sales is that there is no advertising for it. How does Google expect this device to sell if no one but tech blog readers know about it? They need to make a commercial branding the Nexus One a "superphone," like they did when they announced it.

tanguyr on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:36:14.320001-07:00-0700

I'm not so sure they even care that much. I think it was more about just kicking the smartphone (well, non-iphone smartphone) game up a notch. I'm sure they've got loads of plans for what comes next, but if they expected this thing to just magically sell itself without some kind of concerted advertising push behind it, they've got another think coming.

fenshi on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:21:05.347436-07:00-0700

If they'd hurry up and make it available on Verizon I'd buy one.

jordanlund on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T15:37:50.359592-07:00-0700

I like the idea of the Nexus One and I'd consider buying one, but not before I get to play with one in a store. I'm not buying a pig in a poke.

lolinyerface on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T16:31:10.423119-07:00-0700

I'd have picked one up if... A) I knew it was out at the time I got my Motorola Droid. B) It was available for Verizon.

nekoniku on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T07:50:03.996993-07:00-0700

I would love to know what *Google's* expectations were for the Nexus One rollout. I would also like to find out from which orifice Goldman Sachs extracted their N1 sales predictions. I think it is quite likely Google *wanted* small initial sales numbers, in part as a form of damage control if there were problems. They were entering an untested field; it would fit with their normal modus operandi to treat the N1 introduction as a kind of beta test.

mnotme on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:16:10.763043-07:00-0700

This must be why they are giving it away to devs who have a app score better than 3.5(?).

tanguyr on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:37:27.113225-07:00-0700

They want (they *need*) lots more and better apps to compete with the iphone. Giving away free hardware to people with a track record of building just that is a good idea.

Antebios on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:16:31.036802-07:00-0700

Because they didn't let me upgrade my existing phone to a Nexus just because I was on a family plan, they lost out.

ryegye24 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T14:27:21.185162-07:00-0700

That's just a little sad.

Fidodo on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T18:23:15.366516-07:00-0700

I didn't even hear about this, and I'm a reddit addict. Of course nobody is buying it if nobody knows about it.

edwin177 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T20:08:36.798730-07:00-0700

Uhhh... 1mm > 25% * 3.5mm

Junosi on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T20:34:31.000716-07:00-0700

And its still not fucking available in Australia !!!! (overseas ebay excepted) I know of at least ten other people that are still hanging out for it to be available here, meanwhile iphone marches on

maniaq on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T21:08:05.252816-07:00-0700

only good things will come of this

fani on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:15:45.431686-07:00-0700

Problems with Nexus One - - costs too much - nothing new in terms of features - horrible customer service initially - still tied to carriers, plans etc. Nothing radical here as claimed. Choice of T-not-so-mobile was a blunder. Better choice would've been Verizon or ATT. - just another Android phone. There were already several Androids before this - not as innovative or revolutionary as the iPhone. - entered the market too late. market is saturated with iPhone/iPhone type clones. So its another me-too phone. Missing a radical new feature - did I mention the price ?

specialk16 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T11:36:11.637157-07:00-0700

>not as innovative or revolutionary as the iPhone. Oh god here we go again.....

outsider on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T17:26:16.381547-07:00-0700

For reals. If I had wanted an iphone or a phone that looked or behaved like an iphone I'd have bought a damn iphone.

fani on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:37:42.287749-07:00-0700

Oh god here we go again..... A google stooge is loose. The iphone was innovative and revolutionary. Nothing was like it at the time it released and it revolutionized the cell phone industry. Even fucking Verizon was forced to compete by letting go of its old and stupid Brew OS on all its phones to compete with the iPhone. Anyways, the proof is in the numbers. Sales of iPhone far exceed that of all Android devices. So there. No one gives a shit about your little google panty getting in a bunch.

specialk16 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T14:59:19.670739-07:00-0700

* Nice work assuming I care about Google. * The iPhone was revolutionary in the sense that it brought the concept of smartphones to the general public. Other than that, there is nothing on the iPhone that didn't exist already in other phones. Yes, the iPhone is a great device, but technically speaking it is far from a revolution, specially nowadays. * Lol. McDonald's sells WAY more hamburgers than any other place, are McDonald's hamburgers the best? Furthermore, the iPhone has been out way longer than the android platform. Your so called revolution is nothing more than the product of a great advertisement and marketing machine.

fani on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T20:09:58.219202-07:00-0700

Your earlier post gave you away as someone not wanting to Google's Nexus One be put in bad light compared to iPhone as evident by you singling out a bullet point. You also admit the iPhone was revolutionary - supporting what I said. And I said it was revolutionary when it released. Nowhere is it assumed quantity = quality everytime. But sometimes, yes, it is. Other e.g.'s abound = The Dark Knight, Avatar etc. Quantity of tickets did equal quality of movie-making there. Whatever the root cause behind the revolution, it was one. It also was the same great marketing and advertising that got a black man elected ( I support him too btw ). All the people down-voting clearly show the digg-mentality here. Opposing voices to populist products are down-voted.

specialk16 on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T20:18:07.235987-07:00-0700

Well, I disagree with almost everything you just said. >Your earlier post gave you away as someone not wanting to Google's Nexus One be put in bad light compared to iPhone as evident by you singling out a bullet point. Not at all. In fact, we could have been talking about any other cellphone and my post would still make sense. >You also admit the iPhone was revolutionary - supporting what I said We agree that it was revolutionary, we disagree on why it was revolutionary. >It also was the same great marketing and advertising that got a black man elected ( I support him too btw ) Strawman argument. >All the people down-voting clearly show the digg-mentality here. Opposing voices to populist products are down-voted. Ahhhh how clever. Digg sucks, lol, etc. Ultimately, my point is that the Nexus one is still a great piece of hardware, regardless of how the numbers are. In some ways it is even better than the iPhone (open ecosystem, better resolution, better camera, etc). I've been on this path before. We won't ever agree which phone is best.

fani on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-10T07:54:10.638638-07:00-0700

"Well, I disagree with almost everything you just said." What a shocker. No one denies Nexus One is a great piece of hw. Its just that today its competitors are equally as good or better. Case in point - the Verizon Droid phone. Whats inferior about this phone over Nexus One ? And Iis just all in timing. You cannot buy a quad-core PC today and say you have the best HW. Because its prevalent everywhere. If you'd have said that in 2004, then yes. Not today. Same with the iPhone. It was revolutionary when it released and certainly changed the cell phone industry forever. Do you recall the shit before the iPhone ? Phones that looked like crap and had crap features and features turned off on HW level by Verizon ( e.g. no bluetooth file xfer on RAZR under Verizon's Brew OS ). iPhone destroyed all that. It gave so much in a sleek package that people flocked to it ( in a way it was like that 1984 Apple ad again with the lady throwing the hammer at the screen ). There's a reason people compare other products to it. Its the new standard for measuring a cell phone's worth. We will certainly disagree but seriously after a while there's no merit in supporting your stance just for the sake of supporting it.

da_homonculus on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T15:05:30.116877-07:00-0700

> costs too much False. [Cheaper than iPhone](http://www.billshrink.com/blog/6847/nexus-one-vs-iphone-droid-palm-pre-total-cost-of-ownership/). > nothing new in terms of features Has same features, better specced, as iPhone. Higher res camera, far superior screen, fastest processor on the market currently. Also has Google's ever expanding powers of Google Goggles, Google's voice recognition database. Android Market is not hampered like App Store, meaning alternate browsers, media players, and apps like ringtone creators and NES emulators that Apple would never allow to be sold. > horrible customer service initially Keyword being 'initially.' >still tied to carriers, plans etc. Nothing radical here as claimed. Choice of T-not-so-mobile was a blunder. Better choice would've been Verizon or ATT. All phones have this problem being that each carrier has its own radio setup. However the Nexus One will shortly be coming to Verizon. > just another Android phone. There were already several Androids before this Your point being? Why get an iPhone 3GS when there have been several iPhones before it? >not as innovative or revolutionary as the iPhone. Debatable. Nexus One's innovation is using Google servers to complete complex tasks like voice recognition rather than doing it in the phone. >entered the market too late. market is saturated with iPhone/iPhone type clones. So its another me-too phone. Missing a radical new feature Another "me-too" phone? So since the iPhone is out there, everyone should just stop trying? As for radical new feature, see above. >did I mention the price ? Do some research first, please.

vermicin on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T10:39:19.997129-07:00-0700

you nailed it. along with their multi-touch problems (both in initial deployment, and ongoing tracking as seen in a video here on reddit), there's no reason to get this over the iphone except if you're trying to make a point to not buy an iphone.

barryicide on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T12:30:37.354823-07:00-0700

Really? There's no point in getting an open OS, unlocked, 1 Ghz phone over a locked-down, carrier-locked, 528 mhz phone?

vermicin on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:31:15.099836-07:00-0700

The ghz/mhz doesn't (really) matter. The architecture and the apps do. And a 3gs feels as fast or faster than apps on the nexus one. Because of the bands it supports, the nexus one is essentially limited to t-mobile, unlocked or not. Verizon soon, too, but CDMA isn't exactly a "world" band, so when you buy CDMA, you're buying a verizon lock-in. So really, the only tangible benefit is an open os. And if that is what is really important to you, that's what your statement is. You're willing to sacrifice on other areas to get an open OS.

barryicide on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T13:54:44.692931-07:00-0700

In-depth review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVyExV8SYo Short, to-the-point, speed test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kar6Y58aORs The Nexus One destroys the 3GS in real-world speed, not just mhz. That's because it has so much RAM and so much raw processing power (it's on the Snapdragon architecture, a completely new chip architecture). How do you know the 3GS feels faster than apps on the Nexus One? Have you even used a Nexus One? Every speed test I did on a friend's iPhone 3GS versus a Nexus One showed the Nexus One was faster. Every review you can find shows the Nexus Ones is faster. There are no "killer apps" I've found exclusive to the iPhone that do not have equivalents on the Android Market. As a bonus, the Android Market has many apps that are shut off from the iPhone completely (iPhone **must** use the market, Android can load .apks) - enjoy your iron-fisted control from Steve Jobs, I'm quite happy with my Android phone and would recommend it to anyone. Your "oh it won't work on AT&T 3G" point is moot, because the iPhone won't work on T-Mobile's 3G. The CDMA Nexus One already approved by the FCC will open up the Nexus One to an additional carrier and a rumored multi-band radio Nexus One is coming that has world phone status. The iPhone will still be locked to AT&T (and you must buy through AT&T/Apple store with forced 2 year contract). Other tangible benefits (source - http://mashable.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-vs-droid-vs-iphone/): * 3.7" 800x480 OLED screen on the Nexus One... a 3.5" 480 x 320 backlit LCD on the iPhone 3GS. * 5 MP camera over the iPhone 3GS 3 MP * 7 hr 3G talk time vs iPhone 5 hr 3G talk time **plus the battery is swappable**, so in 2 years when the battery sucks, you can replace it for $14 instead of being forced to buy a new iPhone (or pay $150 for a battery replacement). * Expandable/swappable microSD vs iPhone's "don't touch me!" memory * Multitasking OS vs single-tasking OS * Standard USB plus vs proprietary Apple connector (I can use the same USB cable for my phone, my camera, my PS3 controllers, and many more).

gmerideth on Nexus One sales forecast reduced to less than 25% of previous predictions

2010-03-09T15:13:19.842435-07:00-0700

T-Mobile rep tells me my account is flagged for the special upgrade price, Google's website claims that it's not and I must pay full price and setup a new account. See, I can actually "talk" to someone at T-Mobile, that's called customer service. Google should Google "customer service" because they have no idea what it means. There is nobody, no number and a joke of a forum to post messages on to ask Google questions. Since nobody at Google gave any attempt to "help" me, I have no intention of buying their product.